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Ruckus
10-28-2009, 11:03 AM
This dude is the shit

http://www.davehillphoto.com/

Pendulum
10-30-2009, 04:46 PM
thanks for the link ( :

Serious business here.

taggart_lumpy
11-01-2009, 02:28 PM
he does some amazing work

jakellama123
11-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Mindfuck

*inFamous*
11-01-2009, 03:45 PM
I just lost my mindddddd

xracerx
11-01-2009, 03:54 PM
nice

Mafioso
11-01-2009, 04:42 PM
too much photoshops

MissKami
11-01-2009, 05:03 PM
awsome find

ty for that link !

e2blade
11-01-2009, 07:51 PM
too much photoshops

thats the point :facepalm:

Pendulum
11-02-2009, 12:27 PM
That's a digital artist...

Lots of HDR images, lots of photoshop. He's more than a photographer imo.

JDM Jon
11-02-2009, 07:40 PM
Those pictures are definitely amazing.
All the editing sort of hurt my eyes though... :redface:

94EXCIVIC
11-02-2009, 07:50 PM
exactly, digital artist. perspective of photos is ridiculous. good find

mtaz
11-02-2009, 08:22 PM
that shit is amazing! his work kinda reminds me of julian beever's work. obviously different but both talented guys

Mafioso
11-03-2009, 05:03 PM
thats the point :facepalm:

i understand the point. i just prefer REAL photography..

is what this person has done mind blowing? yes.. very talented. but far from "photography"..

94EXCIVIC
11-04-2009, 09:52 AM
i understand the point. i just prefer REAL photography..

is what this person has done mind blowing? yes.. very talented. but far from "photography"..

photography is just on aspect of his work

hellshock2182
11-04-2009, 09:56 AM
i understand the point. i just prefer REAL photography..

is what this person has done mind blowing? yes.. very talented. but far from "photography"..
I don't agree at all, the "photography" knowledge to pull of those shot is definitely above par, you have to light all those shots so they turn out well after your done photoshopping. He just took the base principals and took them to the next level with his photoshop skills

If you think that is far from photography, go take a photography class.

honduh_head
11-05-2009, 01:27 PM
wow some crazy shit.

honduh_head
11-05-2009, 01:32 PM
the dax and jon heder ones cracked me up

sikz6
11-05-2009, 07:32 PM
wow, that is amazing. and i agree with hellshock2182 photography isn't just about point & shoot. there's many aspects & forms of it and this is an example of one.

fmx_dbc
11-05-2009, 08:13 PM
If youve tried to search up any information as to how he gets his particular look like I have, you'll find that he does not use HDR. He uses masses amounts of light, occassionally a Hasselblad camera, and yes obviously a bit of photoshopping. I've spent some time recently using methods others have suggested trying to get his "Dave Hill Look" but have yet to find anything that even comes close.
I would love to know his secrets!

Ruckus
11-05-2009, 08:57 PM
his first secret is a shit load of money, but you already knew that when you said hasselblad camera

honduh_head
11-06-2009, 11:09 AM
i believe some of those shots were intentionally supposed to be "digital" looking (like for video games and such)

Pendulum
11-06-2009, 11:13 AM
Please explain how he's not using HDR. There's no way that I can think of, that would allow him to capture that much detail in the shadows if he was simply nuking the subjects with light. Insane.

e2blade
11-06-2009, 12:01 PM
http://www.hasselblad.com/masters-2008.aspx

wow

honduh_head
11-06-2009, 12:53 PM
http://www.hasselblad.com/masters-2008.aspx

wow

goes to show you that a good photographer knows what to shoot ;)

Mafioso
11-06-2009, 12:58 PM
I don't agree at all, the "photography" knowledge to pull of those shot is definitely above par, you have to light all those shots so they turn out well after your done photoshopping. He just took the base principals and took them to the next level with his photoshop skills

If you think that is far from photography, go take a photography class.

I have taken commercial photography classes as a part of my major thanks.

g2integy
11-06-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't agree at all, the "photography" knowledge to pull of those shot is definitely above par, you have to light all those shots so they turn out well after your done photoshopping. He just took the base principals and took them to the next level with his photoshop skills

If you think that is far from photography, go take a photography class.

Ive taken a shit load of photography classes and they were well before Photoshop. Im with Rufus I like real pictures, not altered by a computer. So when you gonna sell me you digital travis :smoke:

Lilrob
11-06-2009, 01:09 PM
i couldnt agree with you more Mafioso. Its all in photoshop. yea it takes skills to do what he does and the pics are insane. but photography isnt all about editing.

e2blade
11-08-2009, 11:19 PM
hes not using a hasselblad :)

Jstarda9
11-08-2009, 11:50 PM
I still think AZHT photographers do a better job.

hellshock2182
11-10-2009, 11:22 PM
I have taken commercial photography classes as a part of my major thanks.

wow, fantastic, We still agree to disagree

SlowLS
11-11-2009, 09:01 AM
That's a digital artist...

Lots of HDR images, lots of photoshop. He's more than a photographer imo.

i think a true photographer doesnt use photoshop. Remember some of the most amazing pictures that were taken we taken before photo editing software was available. I very very rarely edit any of my photos.

honduh_head
11-11-2009, 11:01 AM
i think a true photographer doesnt use photoshop. Remember some of the most amazing pictures that were taken we taken before photo editing software was available. I very very rarely edit any of my photos.

agreed. all i ever do is crop my photos and slightly retouch my photos. but then again thats not by choice, i dont have PS

Ruckus
11-11-2009, 11:31 AM
Photgraphy is the process, activity and art (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Art) of creating still or moving pictures (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Image) by recording radiation (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Radiation) on a sensitive medium, such as a photographic film (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Photographic_film), or an electronic sensor (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Image_sensor). Light (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Light) patterns reflected or emitted from objects activate a sensitive chemical or electronic sensor during a timed exposure (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Exposure_(photography)), usually through a photographic lens (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Photographic_lens) in a device known as a camera (http://www.azht.net/wiki/Camera) that also stores the resulting information chemically or electronically. Photography has many uses for business, science, art and pleasure.

So to sum it up...yea its photography what he does

honduh_head
11-11-2009, 11:32 AM
whatever it is he does i like it lol

e2blade
11-11-2009, 01:56 PM
why do people get so fucking asshole hurt over PS shit. dude respect something that someone else is doing, maybe they wanna do in a different way.

just because u do something, that doesnt mean IT HAS TO BE DONE YOUR WAY.
PLUS hes a shit ton more successful than any of us will ever be
jesus

honduh_head
11-11-2009, 02:08 PM
whoa calm down tiger. i don't anyone was refuting that he's good at what he does.

e2blade
11-11-2009, 02:14 PM
i just cant stand when people are like, im a REAL photographer cause i dont edit my pictures.
thats a high horse comment right there.

SlowLS
11-11-2009, 03:10 PM
i just cant stand when people are like, im a REAL photographer cause i dont edit my pictures.
thats a high horse comment right there.

High horse my ass, you need to chill; I just said i feel a "real" photographer doesnt use PS. Its called an opinion. And i only use PS when i want to ad "flair" or some shit to my pics, im no pro at it. also i never said anything bad about what this guy is doing, there are several different types of photographers, some are original, like myself, that when they take pics and it doesnt come out, it wasnt meant to be. then there are your photographers that use programs like photoshop to alter their pics to make them look like masterpeices when in all reality they were just a few meteocer photos to begin with; which i have no problem with i just dont prefer it. so i dont know who shit in your cereal this morning but you need to pump your brakes dood.

hellshock2182
11-11-2009, 03:28 PM
i think a true photographer doesnt use photoshop. Remember some of the most amazing pictures that were taken we taken before photo editing software was available. I very very rarely edit any of my photos.

I agree. Ansel Adams FTW!

But now you can't sit here and say those who drift don't race because they're not moving in a straight line. The game has changed on all fronts like many things these days.

SlowLS
11-11-2009, 03:44 PM
I agree. Ansel Adams FTW!

But now you can't sit here and say those who drift don't race because they're not moving in a straight line. The game has changed on all fronts like many things these days.

and thats cool, i just prefer to see "untouched" photos

e2blade
11-11-2009, 05:04 PM
lol ok think what you want. i see no point to even categorize photography, its all the same.

honduh_head
11-11-2009, 05:05 PM
and thats cool, i just prefer to see "untouched" photos

i agree to an extent...unless its supposed to be "art" and not just someone sharing photos.

The President
11-11-2009, 05:14 PM
my only gripe is that some of those shots now look like Characatures or cartoons (The Dax shot).

I'm not a big fan of that look but the dude does have some skills for sure!

With that being said, some shots do look fucking awesome though. The Nick Saben one with his players is pretty sick.

Pendulum
11-11-2009, 06:14 PM
As if photo editing and manipulation is new, because of digital? Do your research. There's been plenty of manipulation before digital. Before Photoshop.

Sure, maybe it wasn't as easy, realistic, or wide spread. But it still happened.

Just one resource... http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/photo_database


And whether you consider his unrealistic work to be true "photography", check out some of his other work. He has some amazing black and white work, that is completely realistic. I would be surprised if he did much Photoshop work, if any, on a lot of his other stuff.



The reason you see a lot of his insane stuff on his portfolio is because that's what gets him PAID.

e2blade
11-11-2009, 07:11 PM
holy shit, i didnt think id ever agree with him^

Ruckus
11-12-2009, 12:03 AM
i just cant stand when people are like, im a REAL photographer cause i dont edit my pictures.
thats a high horse comment right there.

i've said in the past...every pic needs some type of editing. There is no such thing as a perfect picture. If someone thinks they have a perfect pic post it up cause i will put money there is something distracting in the pic that needs to be cloned out, levels will be off, over/under exposed, saturation off, etc

SlowLS
11-12-2009, 08:49 AM
i've said in the past...every pic needs some type of editing. There is no such thing as a perfect picture. If someone thinks they have a perfect pic post it up cause i will put money there is something distracting in the pic that needs to be cloned out, levels will be off, over/under exposed, saturation off, etc

here is one of my best shots - UNEDITED, 35mm 200 iso i believe - and as most of you photographers know, people are the hardest objects to shoot; well at least in my opinion. well here is is this is one i took of my daughter a couple months back

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff284/OptimusHonda/5-25-09/0094786-R3-016-6A.jpg

honduh_head
11-12-2009, 10:13 AM
high fstop ^ ?

SlowLS
11-12-2009, 10:22 AM
high fstop ^ ?

???

Ruckus
11-12-2009, 09:49 PM
is the shirt half orange half red?

braddd
11-12-2009, 11:43 PM
freakin amazing! so crisp! i'm at a lost for words..

e2blade
11-13-2009, 01:14 AM
so now your horse is starting to kick and ride now eh
ZOMG, ive done that too, ITS CALLED A FLASH.
oh and shouldn't the focus be on her eyes not the bangs

and if u wanna talk no edits, i win hands down
thats right, no editing
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/4099589079_8434e65da3.jpg

but i PREFER my pictures to look a certain type.

show me ONE PROFESSIONAL super mega fuck that doesn't use photoshop or light room, your argument is FAILING
dude that comment of, real photographers dont use PS, is the lamest shit ive ever heard, that just tells me, i dont know how to use PS, so i imma bash every faggot fuck that knows how too!

i respect that you dont wanna use PS, but making the comment makes you seem super mega arrogant

but then again, im here to express my opinion and you are to also do the same here too. so no offense, thats just what i think
:offtopic2:

honduh_head
11-13-2009, 08:54 AM
???
Just looks like everything but her eyes is out of focus...even her shirt that's only a few inches behind the focal area. Just wondering if u used a high f stop (aperature)
to get that.

honduh_head
11-13-2009, 08:56 AM
Ps, e2blade u really need to jerk off or something. Getting all bent out of shape over opinions.

e2blade
11-13-2009, 10:51 AM
i know... come help me?

The President
11-13-2009, 11:17 AM
Ps, e2blade u really need to jerk off or something. Getting all bent out of shape over opinions.

i know... come help me?

LOL

but, really, cool it.
There's only one person I bash on and he's not even on this forum and I still don't get as bent out of shape as you do. Brad knows him and knows he's a little prick.

here is one of my best shots - UNEDITED, 35mm 200 iso i believe - and as most of you photographers know, people are the hardest objects to shoot; well at least in my opinion. well here is is this is one i took of my daughter a couple months back


???


Ok, this is like the chevy vs ford, import vs domestic, or lil wayne vs good music arguments b/c it could literally continue forever.

GOOD pictures can be taken w/o photoshop w/o a doubt. With that being said, good pictures can always use some touch ups. Touchups are not a bad thing and whether you like it or not, that's just the way it is.

For the record, all of the shots that guy up top has taken still began with amazing photography. While I don't like a shit load of editing, it's not always about what I want. Sometimes you have to perfect what the mainstream likes in order to be successful. TYC is a great example of this. he takes great shots even when he doesn't HDR the fuck out of them but look at what most people say about his HDR shots! The masses don't know the difference and whether an HDR'd shot is edited all to hell, people still look at it as a picture.

Even though I don't like the HDR thing that much, if I were good at it, I'd do it as well b/c that's what the audience wants to see. it's just the way life works.

Rufus
11-13-2009, 11:43 AM
Just looks like everything but her eyes is out of focus...even her shirt that's only a few inches behind the focal area. Just wondering if u used a high f stop (aperature)
to get that.

A high f Stop gives background detail. That pic is blurry as focus changes. I'd be inclined to think fstop was really low.

The President
11-13-2009, 12:18 PM
A high f Stop gives background detail. That pic is blurry as focus changes. I'd be inclined to think fstop was really low.

explaining f stops gets hazy to me. if you look at your lens materials it will say Maximum Aperture f1.8 - Minimum f22 so it kind of gets cunfusing b/c of the way the manufactures word it.

SlowLS
11-13-2009, 12:19 PM
A high f Stop gives background detail. That pic is blurry as focus changes. I'd be inclined to think fstop was really low.

i dont even know how to use fstop, i just focused on her eyes cause thats where i wanted the clarity, i dont care what her shirt looks like, i just wanted her face to come out clear, dallis, give me lesson? your place, i'll bring the KY?:031:

SlowLS
11-13-2009, 12:20 PM
explaining f stops gets hazy to me. if you look at your lens materials it will say Maximum Aperture f1.8 - Minimum f22 so it kind of gets cunfusing b/c of the way the manufactures word it.

is it the same with a 35mm? cause thats what i mainly shoot with.

Rufus
11-13-2009, 12:22 PM
I learned all I know from this book.. and it's amazing. Amazon for dirt cheap! It explains the relationship between shutter speed, f-stop, and ISO. It teaches you that there is a mathmatically "correct" exposure and creative exposures. The idea being that the "right" exposure is simply what your goals are. I encourage ANYONE to read it. It's easy too, I did it over two plane flights.

http://dslrdad.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/book_understanding-exposure.jpg

Rufus
11-13-2009, 12:26 PM
This is the best portion of wikipedia to explain it: The greater the f-number, the less light per unit area reaches the image plane of the system; the amount of light transmitted to the film (or sensor) decreases with the f-number squared. Doubling the f-number increases the necessary exposure time by a factor of four.

This is why detail will increase with a high fstop, however, shutter speed also had to be increased to compensate for less light being pulled in.

Rufus
11-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Low fstop:
http://www.australiantraveller.com/images/galleries/3168/Jabbers%20Low%20Fstop.jpg

High fstop:
http://longshotsprophoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/20090727-NYC-162hdr.jpg

Pretty easy to spot by focus throughout the image.

The President
11-13-2009, 12:38 PM
This is the best portion of wikipedia to explain it: The greater the f-number, the less light per unit area reaches the image plane of the system; the amount of light transmitted to the film (or sensor) decreases with the f-number squared. Doubling the f-number increases the necessary exposure time by a factor of four.

This is why detail will increase with a high fstop, however, shutter speed also had to be increased to compensate for less light being pulled in.

that's a good way to explain it.

and Q-Bomb, if you don't know what an f stop or aperture is then you might not want to complain about who is and who is not a "real photographer". IMO, if you're not setting your fstop then you're more than likely shooting in Auto Mode.

e2blade
11-13-2009, 12:55 PM
i shoot in A priority mode cause im hard like that
low f

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/e2blade/_DSC9833copy.jpg

Rufus
11-13-2009, 01:08 PM
What is in focus looks great.

azjared
11-13-2009, 01:30 PM
i shoot in A priority mode cause im hard like that
low f

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7085/huhcopy.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/huhcopy.jpg/)

What is in focus looks great.

huh :crazy::drunk:

Rufus
11-13-2009, 01:33 PM
I meant it's fucking crisp d00d.

The President
11-13-2009, 01:36 PM
I shoot Aperture priority quite frequently as well. Unless I have to shoot rolling shots. Then everything needs to be custom.

honduh_head
11-13-2009, 03:01 PM
i change my aperature whenever its needed. IMO every shot is different, even on a tripod. now i'm not saying i change the f stop for every pic, but i do check it.

and dallis thanks for clarifying, i had it backwards, but what i was trying to say you did it correctly for me :)

honduh_head
11-13-2009, 03:01 PM
i shoot in A priority mode cause im hard like that
low f

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/e2blade/_DSC9833copy.jpg

is it just me or is there a little light/dust flare by the thumb?

brojonjordan
11-13-2009, 05:38 PM
www.erikalmas.com

another great photographer/digital artist

Rufus
11-13-2009, 05:43 PM
You should always consider your fstop. It dictates how your photo will turn out. You can certainly shoot on RAW and edit later for brightness, but you all should have the ability to meter on manual mode and let your camera tell you what the mathmatically correct shutter speed would be for the light conditions. Understanding this stuff is what makes photography so cool. There's some frickin science to it man!

If nothing else shoot on f8-f11 as an "average". That is, unless you understand what you're gaining/missing with high/low settings.

Ruckus
11-13-2009, 10:03 PM
i always shoot full manual mode

The President
11-14-2009, 12:39 AM
i always shoot full manual mode

you know that you don't need to ALWAYS shoot full manual mode. If we're covering an event, I shoot A priority and adjust the shutter speed if I need to. Makes shooting much faster.

e2blade
11-14-2009, 02:02 AM
is it just me or is there a little light/dust flare by the thumb?

light bokeh

Ruckus
11-14-2009, 04:02 AM
you know that you don't need to ALWAYS shoot full manual mode. If we're covering an event, I shoot A priority and adjust the shutter speed if I need to. Makes shooting much faster.
yea i know but like to have control over everything. Getting stuff out of the bag you can tell already basically where the settings need to be at. I actually dont remember with my camera in Av mode if if i can change shutter speed or if have to switch to manual. I'll have to check that or someone with a Canon can just post up