S2000 Cluster Install into older Honda's.

[Jason.AZ1]

I see this question asked all the time. I figure I'd just post it up so people can stop making threads about it. I did not write these.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57830

http://www.d-series.org/forums/audio-electronics/98870-s2000-cluster-eg.html


I have found that trying to follow the spread out information on this subject very frustrating. So this is going to be my attempt to organize it.

First off what is needed:

S2000 Cluster

Wire pig tales for S2000 cluster

Modifry AP2 stock ECT converter
http://www.modifry.com/products/ect/ap2.htm

Speedohealer V4 universal
http://www.pashnit.com/

The wiring is pretty straight forward. First off label the factory EG cluster wires. You will only use the top two plugs in the diagram A and B plugs. You will also use the E plug if you have airbags.

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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m139/kjmride/civiccluster1.jpg

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After that I labeled the S2000 cluster. There are a lot of pins that you don't use. I just unpinned the extra pins from the plugs so there was less clutter.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m139/kjmride/s2000pinid.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m139/kjmride/S2000wiring.jpg

Sorry the pictures are hand to see but here we go

EG
Plug A --------to----------- S2000

A1 Blue/White Seat belt indicator to B4 Blue/Red
A2 Green Trunk indicator to A12 Blue/Black
A3 Yellow Ignition Power to A1 and A9 both Yellow
A4 Yellow/Green ECT sensor to Nothing
A5 Black Ground to A17 and A18 both black
also to A16 Red/Blue
A6 Green/Orange Check Engine Light to B28 Green/Orange
A7 Blank
A8 Antilock Brakes----------------------Do not have it------------------------
A9 Green/Red Brake Indicator to B23 Green/white
A10 Red/Green High Beam Indicator to A15 Red/White

EG
Plug B------------to------- S2000

B1 Yellow/White Fuel Sender to B10 Yellow/Black
B2 Yellow/Blue Vss to Speedohealer
B3 Green/Yellow Right turn to B30 Green/Yellow
B4 Green/Blue Left turn to B29 Green/Red
B5 White/Blue Battery Light to B26 White/Blue
B6 Yellow/Red Oil Press. Ind. to B27 Yellow/Red
B7 Blank
B8 Blue Tach to B3 Blue
B9 Blank
B10 Black/Yellow SRS fused Ignition to Nothing
B11 Red/Black Parking Lights to A8 Red/Black
B12 Red Dimmer to Nothing

EG-------------to-------- S2000
Plug E

E5 Blue SRS Indicator to B19 Pink

---------------------------------Modifry ECT to a PRC Ecu-------------------------

Modifry Unit

White to B8 on PRC computer Red/White
Green to B5 on S2000 cluster Yellow/Green
Yellow to A20 on PRC computer Yellow/Blue
Brown to Ground
Gray to Alarm (not used)
Black to Ground

---------------------------------Speedohealer--------------------------------------

Speedohealer

Red to Ignition Power A3 on EG cluster
Black to Ground
Green to B7 Blue/White on S2000 cluster
White to B2 on EG cluster plugs

---------------------------------Other Notes----------------------------------------

Connect A3 and A10 both White/Red on S2000 cluster to a hot all the time 12V source. You will have to find one I used the hot wire at the clock in the dash just because it was right there.

You also have to connect B20 Blue/Red on the S2000 cluster to ground to turn off the ABS light.

This cluster completely works in my car so all wires are tested and verified. The only problem I see is if I typed something wrong.

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I noticed my fuel gauge was not very accurate today so I looked up the sending unit specs. Here is what I got.

S2000
Float Position------------Full------------1/2------------low------------Empty
Resistance--------------11-13----------52-58---------114-120--------130-132
Ohms


Honda Civic DX
Float Position----------Full-----------------Half-------------------Empty
Resistance-----------2-5--------------------25-39-----------------105-110
Ohms

I added a 25 ohm resistor inline to the sending unit and it brought the gauge to a more accurate reading. As you can see by the numbers you can not get it perfect but 25 ohms (actually I was at 23.5 didn't have a 25 ohm resistor so I had to make one) gets it close.


ok...i bought this cluster a long time ago and was gonna put it in my ej. anyways, i have since sold the ej and now have had an eg hatch for about 10 months. i havent had time to really do anything to the car but i saw this cluster in a box and thought...hmmmm i should use this.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/rattmann316/IMG00144.jpg
this is what it looked like when i got it. some dude sold it to me for 170 shipped from cali with the harnesses
as most of you know, mark lamond is the utmost authority when it comes to s2000 clusters. he was among the first to deal with the speedometer and ECT issues. i used his wiring diagrams to make my conversion harness. i tried emailing him several times to see if he would do the conversions for me but just gave up after receiving no replys. after some research, i figured out what i needed to do.
because i was going to swap this cluster to the next honda i buy, i wanted to make sure my conversion harness was as clean as possible. that, and i can get ahold or radio harnesses stupid cheap because of my employee discount. what would cost someone 90 bucks on ebay i got for a little over 8. heres what they look like:
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notice i was able to purchase both male and female radio wiring harnesses. i chose these three harnesses because they had the exact pin count i was looking for. its and 70-1720,70-1721,17-1771 (i believe) metra part numbers. i chose 3 different harnesses just so that i wouldnt mistake one for another.
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mark lamonds wiring diagrams
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/rattmann316/IMG00151.jpg
he clearly states which pins and colors you are looking for when doing the conversion. cool thing is that the s2000 cluster has like 60 pins but your eg will only have 20 or so. lots of wires from the s2000 cluster are not used. basically im waiting for my speedohealer, gear indicator, and ECT conversion pieces so while they are on order im going to show you my conversion harness overkill project.
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soldering the wires. unfortunately i didnt have heat shrink that would shrink enough to the smallest gauge wires, so i had to use electrical tape. not my favorite but its works.
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almost done soldering
more to come on next post......

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here it is soldered and taped. i had to write down the pin outs and colors before i made the harness "pretty".
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figured i might as well test this bitch before i go any further
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here i am writing down pinouts and wire colors on labels from work that are sticky. i had to highlight all the wiring i needed so i didnt get confused. this took longer than it should have IMO.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/rattmann316/IMG00158.jpg
almost done labeling.
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after i finished the labeling. NOW i can finally make this thing look decent.
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done

stay tuned for updates....im getting the other parts shortly.




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[honduh_head]

This.

Fucking rocks.

[nyenye09]

good stuff!

[Phillie]

Youre the man!!! I just got my s2k cluster yesterday and started re-searching on how to's. I just need to find out a few other things that I can't find info on then it goes in.

[Rufus]

Wait... one of these already came installed in my car. What so I do now?!

[Phillie]

Enjoy the view!

[Jason.AZ1]

This.

Fucking rocks.
Lol sticky it so people can stop making a new thread every month

good stuff!
Wrd

Youre the man!!! I just got my s2k cluster yesterday and started re-searching on how to's. I just need to find out a few other things that I can't find info on then it goes in.
No problem playa just trying to help I normally post in every s2k thread just figure people would stop making threads after seeing this

Wait... one of these already came installed in my car. What so I do now?!
This

http://qube-engineering.com/S2000-LEDGaugeCluster-AP1.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/qube-engineering/sets/72157606442341250/detail/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2775039507_07dc2f4d00_b.jpg
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:goodjob:

Enjoy the view!

:biggrin:

[Rufus]

I love those. I thought about the DIY kit

[projectaccord]

Seem like a lot off work I'll rather pay some one to do it lol good stuff tho

when you do it yourself you have that much more respect for it though :) ive always wanted to attempt this.

[honduh_head]

Lol sticky it so people can stop making a new thread every month


Boom. Kapow. http://www.messentools.com/images/emoticones/humor/www.MessenTools.com-emoticones-humor-131.gif

[Jason.AZ1]

:biggrin: now make me a mod?



:rflmao::

[honduh_head]

lol nice try

[Rzarectah]

Bad ass DIY

[Boppers]

damnnn. Jason should be a mod

[skar1]

thank you. i've been wanting to do this for years

[91_b16teg]

This.

Fucking rocks.
yes it does! would love to try this out!

[damion]

i want this so bad and some one stand to make alot of money making jumper harness for this swap like the obd2 to obd1 harness

[4dreglsv]

this is bad ass! i wonder how much it would cost to do this

[Em2typeS]

dam jay. your the man

[drift4agze]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3506304215_5b2d2291b2_b.jpg


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My.............









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That is fucking nice. I have to do this



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[eskone3]

I know what are you talking about its not about money! lol.......I may try to see how much si it, really worth it!.....you are a nerd by the way.....just sayyin

[bseries1320]

I like how you can change the color.purple would be pretty dope

[Rob x3]

this is dope!

[TauntDevil]

This is awesome. I might do this with my prelude possibly though i found out my bb6 already had the connectors for it from the previous owner though i am switching the wiring so i may do this.

[93da6]

So sic.. I need n s2k cluster in my life

[Rob x3]

is this do-able on an RSX?


edit: answered my own question

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