help on getting a weight bench

[S!K TEG]

Well, push-ups and lifting things around the house isn't working anymore.

Would I be able to find a decent weight bench with weights for around $100?

What do you guys recommend for a beginner lifter?

[SiR Mikey]

Depends on what exactly you need. You can find cheapo standard weights/bench for $50 on cl. Olympics are a little more expensive for cheaper brands. You can buy oly weighs for $.50/lb at play it again sports, and a used oly bar for $20-60

[S!K TEG]

Depends on what exactly you need. You can find cheapo standard weights/bench for $50 on cl. Olympics are a little more expensive for cheaper brands. You can buy oly weighs for $.50/lb at play it again sports, and a used oly bar for $20-60

I don't know what to look for. I just been lifting water gallons and bag full of dirt at the house.

What should I look for when buying one? I may just buy a cheap bench and then go to play it again sports and buy some weights then head over to homedepot for a bar or something.

I went to the doctor because no matter how much i workout or eat right, I dont lose weight. he said I was a low on testosterone due to poor diet and not working out the right way. He said before he puts me on testosterones he wants me to change my diet to lots more fruite and veggies. He recommended, since he had the same problem, to do bench lifting to help raise it and of course more sex (kinda hard with a four year old running around in the house). so, I just need to raise my testosterone and get rid of my man boobies, lol. not looking to become a weight lifter of 300+ lbs, just to get in better fit.

[1badLst]

I'm not sure what to think of what said "doctors" opinion is. Most of the time these idiots don't know a damn thing about real fitness. I suggest joining a gym, and making a life change. Honestly this all comes down to how bad you really want it. When we want a new car, new pair of shoes, new I-phone, we do whatever it takes to make it happen, but when it comes to getting in shape, we have all the excuses in the world. Eat healthy, and TRAIN LIKE HELL! If you really want it bad enough, you'll do what it takes to make it happen man. There's tons and tons of info available online (just make sure it's a reputable source) to help you with everything from diet/meal planning, to training regiments.

[S!K TEG]

i thought the same thing about what the doctor said, so I did a little searching myself and some of the things he said were true. I'm not on my personal computer so I cant bring the page up and quote some of it. He was cut but said he couldnt promise me his diet plan will work for that fact everyone is different. He said to play around with different plans and see which one fits me better.

The good thing is my cholesterol is normal, my blood pressure is back to normal, my lungs are still strong and my heart is healthy as well.

I want to join a gym but I have school loans to pay, bills ect. so i can't afford an extra bill. I work from 2pm-1am so, I only have between 9am-11am to work out so i can spend the other two hour with the wife, kid and get ready for work. The two days I have off work, I rest from working out for my body to relax. I do some workouts I have read on the internet that can be done at home.One of them is to buy a weight bench. I bought a punching bag, jump rope and tension belt ( I use it for shadow boxing) to help with the cardiac part. I guess I can save a few hundred and buy a good weight bench or do what SIR Mikey said.

I called my insurance and asked if they covered to see a dietitian for better help, but they don't.

[SiR Mikey]

Your doc is probably on gear lol. What were your test levels at?

[bmxican]

first off do you have the test to show what your free test levels are at? You say you have man tits already... How is your estrogen levels?

[bmxican]

you want to lose those man titties do dips. Dips, decline bench and flys will help. I just did a quick search on craigs and saw this posted. I bet money the dood will take 50 bones for it.


hell take two twenties and tell him thats all you got. Thing is brand new.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/spo/3712969067.html

[S!K TEG]

Your doc is probably on gear lol. What were your test levels at?
around 383, something about average is 500+

first off do you have the test to show what your free test levels are at? You say you have man tits already... How is your estrogen levels?

I asked for a copy of all of that but, I have the paper work at home, I'll have to check when I get back.

[S!K TEG]

you want to lose those man titties do dips. Dips, decline bench and flys will help. I just did a quick search on craigs and saw this posted. I bet money the dood will take 50 bones for it.


hell take two twenties and tell him thats all you got. Thing is brand new.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/spo/3712969067.html

I'll give him a call on break.

[bmxican]

fuck if i were you I'd hop on that TRT/HRT man. So many of my older friends/coworkers/clients are on it and they have such an improved life.

I remember not seeing my boss for two months and when I came back he had been on his test cyp/trt for 3 months. He lost some weight, but not just that he looked happier/was happier. He was like completely different guy in a good way. He talked to me how he dropped his viagra didnt need it, his libido was great, dick would work great, had a better aura to him. His wife was happier too. He even began playing racquetball and working on his cars.

[S!K TEG]

fuck if i were you I'd hop on that TRT/HRT man. So many of my older friends/coworkers/clients are on it and they have such an improved life.

I remember not seeing my boss for two months and when I came back he had been on his test cyp/trt for 3 months. He lost some weight, but not just that he looked happier/was happier. He was like completely different guy in a good way. He talked to me how he dropped his viagra didnt need it, his libido was great, dick would work great, had a better aura to him. His wife was happier too. He even began playing racquetball and working on his cars.

I did notice that about myself. A year or to ago I wasn't fit, I was around 210lb now I'm at 230-240ilbs, I felt alot more active, I felt like I could fuck all night and walked with my head up high.

Now I walk kinda dropped over, I feel a less active like when my kid wants to run around i say " fuck it, I'll pretend to run" He is the one making me notice is it the most. Before I use to take him to the park, to the movies, out to walk around at the mall ect. Now its like, eh, I'll just buy him a puzzle and crap.

My wife she noticed it too. So I'm trying to get back to being active.

I really don't want to get on that meds ( I'm a pharmacy technician and know the side effects). The doc said to check back in a year, and if nothing changed, He'll put me on those meds. I really hate taking meds. Hell, I dont even like taking my inhaler.

[S!K TEG]

I also learned that, If I smoke, that drops my test levels. I'm a four or five cigarettes a day kinda guy. If i'm really stressed, I can kill a pack a day.

[BB6 SwAg]

Imo man, you should get on a solid nutrition plan and join a gym. Stop buying cigarettes and that will pay for your membership. A gym will give you the tools for big lifts and what not. I feel more motivated to work harder at a gym as well. Watching other people do work makes me wanna do the same. Hang in there man..

[S!K TEG]

I wish stopping on buying cigs was that easy. Shit has a hold on me. I almost kicked the habbit back when I had some workout machines outside but my mom took it back. I would go outside for a cig then i just start to work out and forget about the cig. I was down to maybe a cig a day or If I was with friends maybe two or two and half. I try to do that now, but its hard.

I contacted that guy and he would take 60 for it, So i'll be going to check it out after work and also found a weight bench for $150 with a total of 250 lbs of weights, I'll probably pick that up aswell. do a mixture of all the work outs, rotating everyday to keep the body trained instead of getting use to it.

[SiR Mikey]

fuck if i were you I'd hop on that TRT/HRT man. So many of my older friends/coworkers/clients are on it and they have such an improved life.

I remember not seeing my boss for two months and when I came back he had been on his test cyp/trt for 3 months. He lost some weight, but not just that he looked happier/was happier. He was like completely different guy in a good way. He talked to me how he dropped his viagra didnt need it, his libido was great, dick would work great, had a better aura to him. His wife was happier too. He even began playing racquetball and working on his cars.

TRT is life changing beyond what people can imagine.

As for the OP, quitting smoking and watching what you eat will make a huge difference on your daily life. 383 is pretty damn low though. Doing what he said absolutely cannot hurt, not only for your well being but the future of your life(think of your kid). If he does prescribe test down the road though, thank your lucky stars you found a doc willing to prescribe it. Most won't since you're technically "still in range".

What kind of side effects are you expecting/hearing about from TRT?

[KingDingaLing]

My dad wants 150 for this stuff. Everything except the curl bar on the bench seat. Bring a truck. Stuff just sits on patio and wants it gone.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/fatshlong/20130330_141252.jpg

[bmxican]

TRT is life changing beyond what people can imagine.

As for the OP, quitting smoking and watching what you eat will make a huge difference on your daily life. 383 is pretty damn low though. Doing what he said absolutely cannot hurt, not only for your well being but the future of your life(think of your kid). If he does prescribe test down the road though, thank your lucky stars you found a doc willing to prescribe it. Most won't since you're technically "still in range".

What kind of side effects are you expecting/hearing about from TRT?

thats exactly what Im thinking on what negative side effects he will have on trt. Nuts shutting down? They pretty much are they seem, but the doc can provide hcg. Estrogen levels outta wack? Arimidex 1mg a week will get you straight if not .5mg will.

your cig addiction is more worrying to me than the side effects of 100-200mg of testosterone is honestly.

I think the media gave Test a very horrible connotation that its steroids and bla bla bla you are cheating etc.

[S!K TEG]

He doesnt want to prescribe yet, after a year if it hasnt change, then he'll prescribe it.

Prostatic hypertrophy, enlarged prostate, BPH, and elevated PSA, nocturia, urinary hesitancy, urinary incontinence, urinary retention, urinary urgency and weak urinary stream. Just to name a few.

[S!K TEG]

My dad wants 150 for this stuff. Everything except the curl bar on the bench seat. Bring a truck. Stuff just sits on patio and wants it gone.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/fatshlong/20130330_141252.jpg

pm'd

[bmxican]

He doesnt want to prescribe yet, after a year if it hasnt change, then he'll prescribe it.

Prostatic hypertrophy, enlarged prostate, BPH, and elevated PSA, nocturia, urinary hesitancy, urinary incontinence, urinary retention, urinary urgency and weak urinary stream. Just to name a few.

The reason all that is there is because if a user starts ABUSING it then yes those do happen. I know soo many males on TRT and all of those symptoms you posted NONE have told me they got.

[S!K TEG]

The reason all that is there is because if a user starts ABUSING it then yes those do happen. I know soo many males on TRT and all of those symptoms you posted NONE have told me they got.

That happens without even abusing. I'm looking at my medication book and talking to my pharmacist as I type. lol

[bmxican]

black, bloody, or tarry stools;
coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;
severe nausea, vomiting, or stomach pain;
fever lasting longer than 3 days;
swelling, or pain lasting longer than 10 days; or
hearing problems, ringing in your ears.
Less serious side effects of aspirin may include:

upset stomach, heartburn;
drowsiness; or
headache.


those can be side effects to as well every time I take aspirin. You may be a pharm tech man, but I was going to school for Chemical Engineering and was going to go to UofA for their pharmacy school. I was going to become a pharmacist and no not the idiot that counts pills hands them out and tells you how to take them.

[bmxican]

In the end, you can decide what route you can take. But let me tell you what you have a very good doctor and lucky he even mentioned trt for you.

[S!K TEG]

black, bloody, or tarry stools;
coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;
severe nausea, vomiting, or stomach pain;
fever lasting longer than 3 days;
swelling, or pain lasting longer than 10 days; or
hearing problems, ringing in your ears.
Less serious side effects of aspirin may include:

upset stomach, heartburn;
drowsiness; or
headache.


those can be side effects to as well every time I take aspirin. You may be a pharm tech man, but I was going to school for Chemical Engineering and was going to go to UofA for their pharmacy school. I was going to become a pharmacist and no not the idiot that counts pills hands them out and tells you how to take them.

that is what I am doing aswell. lol

my pharmacist isnt the type that counts pills either.

In the end, you can decide what route you can take. But let me tell you what you have a very good doctor and lucky he even mentioned trt for you.

I just have to wait a whole year and see if it was my diet plan or if I chemically need it.

but I did learn alot today. Alll of :you rock:

[bmxican]

If you don't want to believe any of the shit I say go for it, but You can ask my VERY good friend Dr. John Crisler on this very topic. Google him if you have time. :wave1:

[bmxican]

that is what I am doing aswell. lol

my pharmacist isnt the type that counts pills either.



I just have to wait a whole year and see if it was my diet plan or if I chemically need it.

but I did learn alot today. Alll of :you rock:



I don't want to come off as a know it all or undermine your resources but think of how large the medical field is. I just know this topic very well. Again, look up Dr. John Crisler we became very good friends as my field of work intertwined with his. I have sent him over 10+ clients now and all the guys thank me for telling me about him. Lots of free dinners :biggrin:

[S!K TEG]

If you don't want to believe any of the shit I say go for it, but You can ask my VERY good friend Dr. John Crisler on this very topic. Google him if you have time. :wave1:

i never said i didnt believe you. lol

You probably have more time experiance in it than I do. I'm still stuck in school mood on doing research and believing on what I read in text books.

[S!K TEG]

I don't want to come off as a know it all or undermine your resources but think of how large the medical field is. I just know this topic very well. Again, look up Dr. John Crisler we became very good friends as my field of work intertwined with his. I have sent him over 10+ clients now and all the guys thank me for telling me about him. Lots of free dinners :biggrin:

the medical field is large. There are things that I wam still learning through my pharmacist. He use to work at a research lab chemically making drugs and worked for the FDA on getting the drugs tested an all the fun stuff.

I'll look him up when I get home. I need to do some more research on TRT if, hopfully not, i go on it. I'll ask him more questions when I go in for my year exam and he does put me on it.

[SiR Mikey]

God damn BMX, you posted the same response I had in mind until I scrolled down lol.

The ONLY side effect 100-200mg of test may cause, is you to get weepy when you watch the notebook. As bmxican said though, arimidex or aromasin will fix that right up. A lot of endocrinologist dont even understand how to properly administer testosterone

In your defense it can, supposedly, speed up prostate cancer IF you already have it. Supposedly.

I hope for your sake he does prescribe it down the road and you take it, youll be thanking us

[S!K TEG]

God damn BMX, you posted the same response I had in mind until I scrolled down lol.

The ONLY side effect 100-200mg of test may cause, is you to get weepy when you watch the notebook. As bmxican said though, arimidex or aromasin will fix that right up. A lot of endocrinologist dont even understand how to properly administer testosterone

In your defense it can, supposedly, speed up prostate cancer IF you already have it. Supposedly.

I hope for your sake he does prescribe it down the road and you take it, youll be thanking us

what happens if I already get weepy watching the notebook will i grow a vagina??

thats the thing, prostate cancer runs in my family. I'm in the clear as of right now though.

[SiR Mikey]

what happens if I already get weepy watching the notebook will i grow a vagina??

thats the thing, prostate cancer runs in my family. I'm in the clear as of right now though.

Like I said, supposedly. What you should really be worried about is the cigarettes you're smoking every day.

I'm watching my grandpa die of lung cancer right now from smoking

[S!K TEG]

Like I said, supposedly. What you should really be worried about is the cigarettes you're smoking every day.

I'm watching my grandpa die of lung cancer right now from smoking

Will hopefully evertime i go outside for a cigarette, I'll get distracted by the machines.

[1badLst]

So this is what I've gathered from the OP. You cant afford a gym membership, but you can afford to smoke. You find it hard to be active with your kid anymore, so you just buy him things....but you can't afford a gym membership. Like I said in my original post...It comes down to how bad you really want it. I'm sure this will be taken as me being abrasive or a dick, but I'm just calling it how it is.

[93da6]

I have lots of equipment for cheap pm me if you want more info

LAUSANNE GREEN PEARL RHD DA

[S!K TEG]

So this is what I've gathered from the OP. You cant afford a gym membership, but you can afford to smoke. You find it hard to be active with your kid anymore, so you just buy him things....but you can't afford a gym membership. Like I said in my original post...It comes down to how bad you really want it. I'm sure this will be taken as me being abrasive or a dick, but I'm just calling it how it is.

The puzzels are only like a dollar.

Cigarette is hard to quite. SIR Mikey probably knows what I mean by hard.

Last time i checked, a gym member ship was about $100-$125/ month might have changed idk. Even if I did have money for gym I dont have the time to get up go to the gym get back to pick up my son, and get ready for work. I'm picking up RCs equipment so I can do it at home without having to be in a hurry.Your not being a dick, you're telling me how it is and that is what some people just need to hear.

[skar1.0]

I pay $25/month at 24hr, blast fitness just opened here in west Phoenix they do $10/month I went to check it our since its pretty close to me but didn't feel right and for $20/month you can take a guest plus free tanning smh

[SiR Mikey]

Yea gym memberships are $10-25/month on average

[bmxican]

I just signed up to the golds gym now. I'm at 120 bucks a month for gym memberships!!!! I save my receipts cause that shit goes on my tax write off

[93da6]

I just signed up to the golds gym now. I'm at 120 bucks a month for gym memberships!!!! I save my receipts cause that shit goes on my tax write off

Dont they charge 10dls a month?

LAUSANNE GREEN PEARL RHD DA

[bmxican]

Thats for 4 gym memberships... from LA fitness, to Golds, too two local ones.

[Full RACE Hatch]

Hey Bro. Go to Golds gym in ahwatukee and its only $10 a month. Doing home workouts even with some equipment is almost pointless.

[SiR Mikey]

His workouts would be hindered just as much by a bunch of idiots standing around machines talking

[S!K TEG]

Yea gym memberships are $10-25/month on average

really? I had a friend how is going to L.A fitness and he put me down as a friend recommendation and got a free month trail after that they said it would be $50 a month.

I just signed up to the golds gym now. I'm at 120 bucks a month for gym memberships!!!! I save my receipts cause that shit goes on my tax write off

Really? how can that be a tax right off?

Hey Bro. Go to Golds gym in ahwatukee and its only $10 a month. Doing home workouts even with some equipment is almost pointless.
Its pointless to drive to ahwatukee for a few minutes and back to north phoenix. The only time I would have is thurdays to work out due to my busy schedule.

His workouts would be hindered just as much by a bunch of idiots standing around machines talking

wut???



I went back to my Doctor. He decided to put me on Androgel. His exact words were "I'm excited to prescribe you this med, You will be a change man and not feel out of place or thinking what is wrong with me"

I start the treatment on Monday ( insurance needs to approve the gel form and not the injection). I have been working out at home with a machine like RC was going to sell me.

My wieght is still the same at average of 250lbs but i have slender down a bit. fit back into XXL shirt instead of XXXL

[SiR Mikey]

You'll probably end up on injections, all but 1 person i know who was on androgel ended up doing injections.

btw bmx travels for work I believe, which is how he can write it off

[Spec C]

You don't want the gel for sure. Just tell him after a short time you don't feel that hgood and would like to pursue injections.

The gel also raises dht way more than injections. Ie. Not what you want if you're worried about prostate issues.

[S!K TEG]

You'll probably end up on injections, all but 1 person i know who was on androgel ended up doing injections.

btw bmx travels for work I believe, which is how he can write it off

what I was told by the MD, Usually because the price is cheaper on the injections.

You don't want the gel for sure. Just tell him after a short time you don't feel that hgood and would like to pursue injections.

The gel also raises dht way more than injections. Ie. Not what you want if you're worried about prostate issues.

I don't mind the gel, alot easier for me than injection for numerous reasons, mainly, I hate needles.

The MD checked me out and I have no signs of prostate problems, He wants me to come in every 4-5 months for a prostate test while I'm on it.

I was worried before, but the more I read up on it, it does raise the chance of me getting it, but it is slim; even though it runs in my dads side of the family. As long as I don't over do it with it, I should be fine, hopfully.

[Spec C]

I was worried before, but the more I read up on it, it does raise the chance of me getting it, but it is slim; even though it runs in my dads side of the family. As long as I don't over do it with it, I should be fine, hopfully.
It doesn't matter. The gel doesn't work well for just about everyone. You will feel like shit at some point.

And again, it is known to raise DHT considerably more than test inj. That is not good for your prostate, no matter what.

[bmxican]

You'll probably end up on injections, all but 1 person i know who was on androgel ended up doing injections.

btw bmx travels for work I believe, which is how he can write it off

you are right, I'm not the best for tax info thats why I bang the accountant every once in a while and she does my taxes. she just tells me to save everything.

[bmxican]

It doesn't matter. The gel doesn't work well for just about everyone. You will feel like shit at some point.

And again, it is known to raise DHT considerably more than test inj. That is not good for your prostate, no matter what.

im with Spec C, do the injection if anything do a insulin subq injections once or twice a week for stable blood/hormone levels.

[S!K TEG]

It doesn't matter. The gel doesn't work well for just about everyone. You will feel like shit at some point.

And again, it is known to raise DHT considerably more than test inj. That is not good for your prostate, no matter what.

im with Spec C, do the injection if anything do a insulin subq injections once or twice a week for stable blood/hormone levels.


well, I ended up on the gel stuff. I have four refills on it so, after those are up. I have to go check in for a blood test. If i have to keep taking it, I'll see if I can get on the injection.

I stop reading up on this stuff do to work overload. So injection is better? he said with injection, I will only get a short burst of test and that is when the mood swings kick in. With the gel, it will be stable at all times.

[Spec C]

well, I ended up on the gel stuff. I have four refills on it so, after those are up. I have to go check in for a blood test. If i have to keep taking it, I'll see if I can get on the injection.

I stop reading up on this stuff do to work overload. So injection is better? he said with injection, I will only get a short burst of test and that is when the mood swings kick in. With the gel, it will be stable at all times.

They he has no clue what he is talking about..lol I am not sure how some of these people are even Dr's.

[S!K TEG]

They he has no clue what he is talking about..lol I am not sure how some of these people are even Dr's.

lol. sometimes i asked the same question when i have to call the drs for clarification on scripts

[SiR Mikey]

They he has no clue what he is talking about..lol I am not sure how some of these people are even Dr's.

School and a piece of paper

[bmxican]

are you freaking Kidding me gel being more stable? That garbages absorption rate is garbage!!! What is the mg on the gel you have? Like I said if you want stable blood hormones do the injections 2-3xs a week. 2xs a week will be easy and will be super stable with minimal side effects. You can use insulin needles where you carry the least amount of body fat and you will be good to go man. You will barely feel a thing!

[SiR Mikey]

This doctor is probably one of the many that expects 100-150mg EOW to be sufficient