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illwill
09-12-2007, 05:56 PM
I am undecided, I've always wanted a B17A1. I recently sold my Integra with an internally stock o.b.d. 0 B16A. Now I am preparing to build an o.b.d. 1 Integra.

I am thinking about buying a B17A1 shortblock and a 37820-P61-A00 E.C.M. and installing a stock 2001 B18C5 head onto the shortblock.

I am thinking about buying a o.b.d. 1 J.D.M. B16A shortblock and PR3 E.C.M. and
installing a stock 2001 B18C5 head onto the shortblock.

I want to know is there also a better o.b.d. 1 E.C.M. to use with the combos I have in mind?

I have no desire to use any parts that are not O.E.M.
I have no desire to use a B18C shortblock and my mind isn't going to change. Keep that in mind guys.

Thank You:)

Wholesaler
09-12-2007, 06:03 PM
socketed ecu with s300 or neptune. nothing else. If your so anal about using a stock ecu i hope your not planning on making power

illwill
09-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Quit with the flippin' negative comments, so typical of AZHT.

I am not planning on spending money on customizing the computers.

I plan on daily driving this Integra, I have no concern for maximum output.

I am asking for facts, not personal preferences.

Mr.Burner
09-18-2007, 07:38 PM
socketed ecu with s300 or neptune. nothing else. If your so anal about using a stock ecu i hope your not planning on making power

X2

Sounds like your wasting a bunch of time...............putting this head on that block and this block with this head....and not wanting to spend the money to make it run right? so typical AZHT kids not knowing shit about making motors run right.....
There were no negative comments...
You said your not going to waste money on computer socketing, then why the hell are you going to waste money on a TypeR head????? drop in a B16, run it with a P30 or P28 and call it done.......
The only reseason we suggest aftermartet socketing is because we know they work......its not a big deal to use them...

If your that anal about it.... well your a dude, you shouldnt take anal!!

DJ NeX
09-19-2007, 12:02 AM
I don't understand why you are asking this question. You have a choice, to run it reliable with an actual tuned program, or to run not reliable with a "guess."

Like Mr. Burner says, get a b16 or b18C ecu.

Sparkles
09-19-2007, 10:48 PM
The main problem with the B17 is its really low compression but its got more displacement than a B16. You could use some P30 pistons and stay oem.

Wholesaler
09-19-2007, 11:50 PM
Quit with the flippin' negative comments, so typical of AZHT.

I am not planning on spending money on customizing the computers.

I plan on daily driving this Integra, I have no concern for maximum output.

I am asking for facts, not personal preferences.

HUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuH? looking at thread title

B16offuryz
09-20-2007, 10:42 AM
Stay OEM y0000000

Mr.Burner
09-20-2007, 10:47 AM
^^ this is an OEM conversation.

advert
09-20-2007, 10:48 AM
Quit with the flippin' negative comments, so typical of AZHT.

I am not planning on spending money on customizing the computers.

I plan on daily driving this Integra, I have no concern for maximum output.

I am asking for facts, not personal preferences.

dude your wierd.

why would any person in there right mind waste soo much time trying to source a b17 and than spend all that cash for a type R head. and than not want output. why not roll a D.

you want facts. not personal preferences?

FACT your going to fuck your motor up over time running a stock ecu. you can not be sure that it is going to run your car right.

Rufus
09-20-2007, 11:01 AM
I didn't read this post, but based on the thread title the combo I pick is:

Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku (Hurricane Kick) - d,b,B

In this move Ryu performs an uppercut punch. One of the greatest moves! This is a strong
attack that can be used in combos but if he misses he'll be counter-attacked
on the way down.

Mr.Burner
09-20-2007, 11:21 AM
retard.

MOD's Spell Checker
09-20-2007, 12:20 PM
everybody already said what i was going to say...

...so ill just leave

illwill
09-20-2007, 01:16 PM
I have already sourced a B17A1 short block.

Second I would be modding the engine more over time, that's why I am going to use a B18C5 cylinder head. I am considering changing the pistons, in the future, to j.d.m. Integra Type R.

For now I want to know which E.C.M. will run my combination the most efficiently.

I don't want a B18C, because I plan on revving to 10,000 rpm eventually.

Wholesaler
09-20-2007, 01:40 PM
Good luck making power at 10k... and oil pressure

illwill
09-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Stop assuming. I know that Integra Type R camshafts will not make power over 9,000 r.p.m. I don't plan on nailing 10,000 r.p.m. for awhile.

Wholesaler
09-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Stop assuming. I know that Integra Type R camshafts will not make power over 9,000 r.p.m. I don't plan on nailing 10,000 r.p.m. for awhile.

Sure, just stating facts. You do realise that itr pistons offer less compression then the factory b16 pistons you want to replace.

BADCHKN
09-20-2007, 02:12 PM
Okkk since everybody is being RetaRded ill tell u what to do.... run ls pistons with a cx ecu for a little extra kick..... you'll make power

Wholesaler
09-20-2007, 02:22 PM
Exactly what I would do

Mr.Burner
09-20-2007, 02:32 PM
this thread is going nowhere fast......we gave you our facts and answered your questions.......this conversation should be done......
anymore questions?

SiR Mikey
09-20-2007, 03:47 PM
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww SNAP!

Bump it 2 teh toP!

B16offuryz
09-20-2007, 09:32 PM
i just recived a dyno sheet from ***** :thumbup:

Wholesaler
09-20-2007, 09:47 PM
hahahhahahahah lmao

MOD's Spell Checker
09-21-2007, 11:02 AM
you want the motor to run efficeintly now AND later, get a S300 or Neptune now and have it run efficeintly now AND later.

somebody lock this thread, its over

Mr.Burner
09-21-2007, 12:13 PM
its was over a long time ago.

fourstarcivic
09-22-2007, 12:12 AM
an oem map isnt going to let you rev much over 8k. id throw a b16 head on that b17a short block if i were you as well.

SiR Mikey
09-22-2007, 01:20 AM
an oem map isnt going to let you rev much over 8k. id throw a b16 head on that b17a short block if i were you as well.

He might as well just throw a b17 long block in there with a p61 ecu if he goes that route

This should be interesting lol...