turbo or all motor?

[my2kgsr]

i know i know two different subjects and all depends on what i want to do but just want to hear a couple opinions, i was thinkin of picking up a type r head and tranny from a freind of mine that blew a rod and dumping about 2-3 grand in the motor for a nice all motor setup or just buying the type r head and slapping that on with a complete custom turbo kit from DVI which by the way is a great turbo (all garrett products used) with the ram horn style manifold which i like a lot but all in all will probably run me bout 4 grand for that complete setup with tuneing and all my fuel setup done. so what do you guys think im not wanting no 300whp motor just anywhere from 200-250 would be nice just something to have some fun with, it is my daily driver. all input is welcome!

[ILIKETODRIVE]

I'm an NA guy when it comes to Honda's. They can be boosted to hell and back and make awesome power, but I'm old school and stuck in my NA ways.

[HEADSHOT]

yeah i think fi is not as cool as it once was. na is so much cooler to listen to

[Rx7toCivic]

na is only good for road racing, boost all the way. If you want to spend alot to go slow go n/a

[Fresh_manny21]

i would say boost on a b and n/a on a k

[taggart_lumpy]

b series... fi
k series... na

[my2kgsr]

thnx fellas like the input, its nice to get some other input, what do you guys think about the type r head on my gsr block + turbo ? think that will improve any horsepower of course i will keep the gsr cams in there but is it worth it?

[ILIKETODRIVE]

thnx fellas like the input, its nice to get some other input, what do you guys think about the type r head on my gsr block + turbo ? think that will improve any horsepower of course i will keep the gsr cams in there but is it worth it?

Depends on how much $$$ you'd be spending.

It's a plus because the Type-R head flows better and has a better manifold than the GSR. Am I right B guys?

[Fresh_manny21]

Depends on how much $$$ you'd be spending.

It's a plus because the Type-R head flows better and has a better manifold than the GSR. Am I right B guys?
i agree how much are you getting it for

[Jesse]

it will drop compression which will easily negate any difference it makes up in flow. I would keep it stock gsr motor and do about 10psi daily, easy 300-325whp. Keep it simple.

[ILIKETODRIVE]

According to zealautowerks online compression calculator, it only drops it from about 10:1 to 9.8:1.

[Jesse]

it would really only be benifitial if he kept the ITR cams...then it will make more power than gsr head. He is limited by the stock block though, and finding the safe limit of the stock block is very easy to do...

[my2kgsr]

i am picking up the itr head complete without cam's/cam gears for about 500. am i able to boost to 10psi on complete stock motor, i will have 750cc injectors and 255 fuel pump, i was thinkin more like 8psi and that was pushin it for daily driver? i am going to have it tuned of course

[GOT14U]

i am picking up the itr head complete without cam's/cam gears for about 500. am i able to boost to 10psi on complete stock motor, i will have 750cc injectors and 255 fuel pump, i was thinkin more like 8psi and that was pushin it for daily driver? i am going to have it tuned of course
you can easly boost a stock block with 10psi. i would just get a 9 bar wastegate spring and leave it at that. very simple. i made 375hp on a street tune by jesse on crome with my setup. while i was running my wastegate spring. just my .02

one thing i would do is get a good rev limiter and be a little consevitive on that end of it. while running a stock block. that would be the only real worry i would have is accidently sailing the rpms to high.

[RhdRicheeee]

:type: voted

[4sd4dr]

i voted all motor BBBBBBB

[Type - O]

dang i love these threads, i would say high compression all motor for daily driving and occasional track meets. turbo for more then occasional track meets. i would give more props to the d00d that had a low 1/4 mile time all motor then the guy with the turbo.

[Type - O]

while were on the topic, i have a b16 that im really not wanting to build. how much boost can i put on stock? 10 lbs was it?

[Daddy_Digital]

its more impressive when its all motor. altho turbo is good to..and cheaper. it all depends on what u want. personally, id go all motor

[onesikdb8]

i would say boost on a b and n/a on a k

Definitely....or what the hell boost the K also.

[Type - O]

its more impressive when its all motor. altho turbo is good to..and cheaper. it all depends on what u want. personally, id go all motor

id say all motor is cheaper as long as your not looking for huge power. but if your looking to get into the 400-5oo hp range then yes turbo is much cheaper

[I Hate Import Cars]

it's all up to what you're trying to do. You'll get a lot more respesct from the tuning community for building a 300 hp n/a motor than a 300 hp f/i motor, but it's really just a personal choice. I go all motor with my cars because I like to see exactly how gnarly I can make a motor all on it's own merits. Just understand that they are two totally different builds, and that you get power from different methods for each one. For example, on a n/a motor, your power is going to come, primarily, from your cam/head/valvetrain setup. If you want to build a lot of power, you need that head to flow really well, so I would have my manifold and head ported and polished by someone who knows their shit. Then I would very carefully choose a set of cams and a valvetrain that will work the best for my intended purpose. That's n/a. On a forced induction motor, however, the flow potential of the cylinder head isn't quite as crucial, being that the air is being forced through the runner, so assuming that the stock head and manifold flow DECENTLY at least, I would spend the money for porting and polishing somewhere else, like say a really good boost controller setup, or tuning. Or, if you know a good tuner and wanna get REAL ballsy about it, add a little laughing gas to the equasion. :) Either way, just make sure that you understand what parts and operations are carrying out what functions, and it should be pretty close pricewise, and still not break the bank. But I vote n/a.

[advert]

:type: voted

wtf richeeee almost a year late.

[ILIKETODRIVE]

wtf richeeee almost a year late.

Maybe he voted a long time ago and forgot to post about it. :tongue:

[bmxican]

then you go and post a week later! Way to go homie!!!!! now lets go have some fun in your ef.

[RhdRicheeee]

wtf richeeee almost a year late.
" K "
Maybe he voted a long time ago and forgot to post about it. :tongue:
;)
then you go and post a week later! Way to go homie!!!!! now lets go have some fun in your ef.
x2

[Zero]

boost boost boost lol

[Chiodos]

:p

[INTEGRA DC2]

I say N/A if you see a hatch run 12's with boost and then a hatch that runs the same times what would you think, I SAY N/A All the way

[mixxxwell]

H2B FTW!!!! u get the best of both worlds. stock H22 on type-S cams open header in a 91CRX ran 12.65 and thats half the cost of a K

[hondalove]

why not both haha

[*inFamous*]

an age old decision.

i personally have driven a couple badass N/A cars and love em, however i will never not own a boosted car after my first setup. They can be so much fun :)

[ef9sleeper]

Boost owns, enough said.