1995 K24 powered Mugen Prelude [Archive]

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 04:22 PM

OK so my problem is i started work on turning my prelude into a mugen prelude and the question was on what power plant would be the coolest to use and i came across hasports conversion kit to put a k series in my car an i think i want to go with a k24 mated to a 6 speed transmission i wanted your feedback to see what the honda crowd would think of it.

let me know guys

this is also gonna be my thread for pics and updates to my car

can't wait to hear from all of you

rudsone

01-16-2008, 04:29 PM

k24/k20

pictures?

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 04:33 PM

well i havent decided on what k24 motor i want to go with i kind of wanted to use the factory turbocharged one from acura i'm gonna post some pics of the lude and the mugen bumper and the audio components when i get home from work in a bit. what engine do you think i should use?

littletruong

01-16-2008, 04:44 PM

id say go k20, parts would be fairly cheaper, plus more aftermarket support.

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 04:46 PM

i was considering that. my only thing is i want torque thats what i'm after but you bring out a point with that k20 idea.

DJ Hookid

01-16-2008, 05:17 PM

id say go k20, parts would be fairly cheaper, plus more aftermarket support.

Waste of Money IMO. K20 pushes the same amount of HP and has less torque. Motors weigh about the same. I suggest Keeping the H22 and building it or do a k20 head/ k24 bottom end.

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 05:27 PM

i like the k20 head idea on a k24 it might work really good. the turboed k24 from the rdx impresses me though because its rated at 260 foot pounds of torgue which is alot of power but the k 20 head on a k24 interests me

DJ Hookid

01-16-2008, 05:41 PM

Either one would be B/A!

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 05:44 PM

ya i think i wanna go with the rdx's turboed k24 mated to the 6 speed from the tsx what do you think about that match up

F40

01-16-2008, 06:59 PM

ya i think i wanna go with the rdx's turboed k24 mated to the 6 speed from the tsx what do you think about that match up

It's impossible. That motor isn't swapable into anything yet.

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 07:01 PM

from what i gatherd its just another k series motor so the swap should work if not than i'm going to use the power plant from a tsx

nuocmam

01-16-2008, 08:43 PM

It's impossible. That motor isn't swapable into anything yet.
How is it impossible if he found the conversion kit?
I came across hasports conversion kit to put a k series in my car
nothing is impossible!...all you need is time, money, and effort...
anyways gl man!

ph8ed4life

01-16-2008, 09:36 PM

You have a mugen front bumper....

I am green with envy. Pm me how much you got it for. I want one, but the only thing i would rock on my DD is a mugen replica..

Which no one has made yet.

littletruong

01-16-2008, 10:14 PM

i was considering that. my only thing is i want torque thats what i'm after but you bring out a point with that k20 idea.

Waste of Money IMO. K20 pushes the same amount of HP and has less torque. Motors weigh about the same. I suggest Keeping the H22 and building it or do a k20 head/ k24 bottom end.

you guys want torque?? go get a J Series motor and do custom work with it, like me.

i've got a 3.5 swap into my 03 accord AV6, i'm pushing about 270- 280whp and almost 300 torque with my swap.... and yes i have lsd installed as well. and im N/A for now.. should have been turbo'd and everything already but some dumb ass tuner blew my fucking motor while tuning... so im just stuck with my swap for now.

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 10:21 PM

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 10:27 PM

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my bumper pics its not installed yet i'm waiting for the side shirts and rear lip to arrive i ordered those through kaminari

littletruong

01-16-2008, 10:31 PM

a v6 would be great but theres no mounts to do that kind of a swap yet or i would do it. so with the rdx's 2.3 liter turboed motor i get 240 horse and 260 in torque which i am more than happy with so it looks like thats the route. i don't know much about the k series i honestly wish i knew more cause i would prefer a high revving 300hp k24 but i don't know how to do that... :(

umm you can try and do that, but i really don't think its possible yet...

i say you just do a k20 or k24 swap and just do the tsx tranny 6spd swap if thats possible.. Do all the bolt ons thats out there for it and im pretty sure you'll be satisfied..

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 10:34 PM

i posted the links for the bumper and head light covers let me know

http://i5.tinypic.com/7xjrng8.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/6s9h0lj.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/6pyasdy.jpg

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 10:37 PM

there they are its beautiful lol i can't wait for the rest of it to come along

JDM_freak

01-16-2008, 10:59 PM

How is it impossible if he found the conversion kit?

nothing is impossible!...all you need is time, money, and effort...
anyways gl man!

thanks for the support man:you rock:

LONESTAR

01-16-2008, 11:26 PM

It's impossible. That motor isn't swapable into anything yet.

I've seen this motor swapped into ep3's a few times already. I believe it bolts right up to the ep3 but don't quote me on that just what I saw on ephatch before being banned.this swap In the lude would be sick as hell hasport would be the ones to make the mounts fo sho I would suggest hitting them up. Gl luck keep us posted homie.

bodydrop

01-17-2008, 07:01 AM

How is it impossible if he found the conversion kit?

nothing is impossible!...all you need is time, money, and effort...
anyways gl man!

beat me to it! nothing is impossible when you put you mind to it.

g/l on the build.

tricken

01-17-2008, 08:28 AM

hasport has the mounts already, they are building a k 4th gen as a race ca, gl have fun doing the sawp and then owning the street

JDM_freak

01-17-2008, 10:36 AM

thanks for all the support guys this is gonna be a fun build... i was wondering however what king of power a k24 with a k20 head would put out???

DJ Hookid

01-17-2008, 10:44 AM

you guys want torque?? go get a J Series motor and do custom work with it, like me.

i've got a 3.5 swap into my 03 accord AV6, i'm pushing about 270- 280whp and almost 300 torque with my swap.... and yes i have lsd installed as well. and im N/A for now.. should have been turbo'd and everything already but some dumb ass tuner blew my fucking motor while tuning... so im just stuck with my swap for now.

The J series motor wont fit in a prelude.

a v6 would be great but theres no mounts to do that kind of a swap yet or i would do it. so with the rdx's 2.3 liter turboed motor i get 240 horse and 260 in torque which i am more than happy with so it looks like thats the route. i don't know much about the k series i honestly wish i knew more cause i would prefer a high revving 300hp k24 but i don't know how to do that... :(

As far as the RDX motor... I looked into it and the issue with it is that the motor is too tall so it wont fit in any other Honda. My suggestion is to stick with a K20/K24 frankenstein.

DJ Hookid

01-17-2008, 10:47 AM

Something else I've seen is a K20 head on a H22 block... :type:
Don't ask me how but they did it and it was torquey as hell!

JDM_freak

01-17-2008, 11:03 AM

The J series motor wont fit in a prelude.

As far as the RDX motor... I looked into it and the issue with it is that the motor is too tall so it wont fit in any other Honda. My suggestion is to stick with a K20/K24 frankenstein.

ya i looked alot more into it the k23 it too tall unfortunetly but i decided to build a k20 i checked out a company called toda and they have a stroker kit for that motor so that answers the torque issue. my only question is... will a k20a2 mount up to the 6speed from the tsx???

DJ Hookid

01-17-2008, 11:43 AM

why dont you just use a RSX-S 6 speed tranny? Its basically the same except for the final drive.

JDM_freak

01-17-2008, 12:32 PM

the hasport mounts are for use with the tsx or accord 6 speed i guess they're different thats why i need to know if i can use that tranny with the k20a2 motor

The President

01-17-2008, 01:55 PM

i hope you have deep pockets! will be sick if you have the resources to do it and get it done.

littletruong

01-17-2008, 07:10 PM

The J series motor wont fit in a prelude.

im pretty sure if you can put a j series into a hatchback (which i've seen a video online before) then you can fit one in a prelude..

but hey whatever jdm freak wants to do! if he's got the money then go for it.

JDM_freak

01-17-2008, 07:29 PM

im pretty sure if you can put a j series into a hatchback (which i've seen a video online before) then you can fit one in a prelude..

but hey whatever jdm freak wants to do! if he's got the money then go for it.

thanks for the support man i'm gonna do the k20 build with a toda stroker and top end upgrades

samurai4321

01-17-2008, 07:35 PM

daaamn, that Mugen kit is gona look hawt when installed :D

JDM_freak

01-17-2008, 07:44 PM

daaamn, that Mugen kit is gona look hawt when installed :D

thanks bro i appreciate it i'm gonna be getting pics up soon of all the audio components, as well as the mugen m7 wheels and the bilstein suspension

but again i'd like to thank everyone who is supporting this build... :you rock:

vtecH

01-18-2008, 09:53 AM

just keep us posted bro

JDM_freak

01-18-2008, 12:22 PM

i just sourced a k20 long block that i'm gonna go pick up so i can start the engine build. does anyone know where i can get the harness and stock ecu???

JustinD

01-19-2008, 08:46 AM

the height of the RDX K23 has nothing to do with it not working with kswap parts/mounts.

the block is an entirely differnt block than all the k20/k24's and NO civic or rsx transmission will bolt up to it. The RDX uses a RL style transmission (at least the bolt pattern is the same)

And the oil filter is moved on the back of the block to be right in the way of where the RSX/Civic intermediate shaft would have to go...this doesnt matter for the RDX tranny cause its RWD.

The block itself "size wise" would fit in your prelude/civic/accord etc, just dont have a way of bolting a tranny to it yet.

Just put a k24a2 w/ a RSX 6 spd in your Lude....you'll love it.

JDM_freak

01-19-2008, 10:58 AM

jp8AP1

01-19-2008, 10:58 AM

hey bump for wanting to do this.. let us all know how its goin and pics if you can! good luck with it all !!!

JustinD

01-19-2008, 09:40 PM

i have to use a tsx 6speed its the only one that will fit. currently i'm debating between a k24 with an rsx type r head or stroking a k20 to 2150cc at a 12:1 compression which do you think would be a better solution???

wouldnt bother buying a type r head if you go k24....a type r head is the exact same as a type s head (just different cams)....plus the head on the k24a2 is already a "3 lobe" vtec head lke the type s and type r....not good reason to switch it.

as for a built motor, thats always better if you wanna spend the cash to do it.

bryans_k20

01-19-2008, 09:57 PM

Just get k24a2, the tsx motor. Cam it, throw some nice headers on it, and an intake. Have Joe down at locash tune it, and trust me you'll be plenty happy. It will be the best pulling honda motor you have ever driven, and still feel a lot more torquey than your h22.

samurai4321

01-20-2008, 02:38 PM

i own a tsx and i can tell u that ur gona be one happy camper once u get that motor in ur ride :D

JDM_freak

01-21-2008, 09:57 AM

it sounds like the tsx k24 is gonna be the way to go with this car... i considered the options and i'll get the power i want from it

GroceryStore_ninja

01-21-2008, 12:35 PM

k24 out of a tsx then you can stroke it

JDM_freak

01-21-2008, 09:45 PM

http://i30.tinypic.com/j14rbo.jpg

my new steering wheel (gotta love ebay right lol)

DJ Hookid

01-22-2008, 04:22 PM

Looks good. Im gonna go with the Sparco or S2000 steering wheel. Most likely the S2000.

n8jigga

01-22-2008, 06:04 PM

Looks good. Im gonna go with the Sparco or S2000 steering wheel. Most likely the S2000.

s2k steering wheel FTW exactly what i want to do too phillip :thumbup:

DJ Hookid

01-23-2008, 01:05 PM

^^^ Me, you and Wayne need to meet up again soon!

n8jigga

01-23-2008, 03:12 PM

^^^ Me, you and Wayne need to meet up again soon!

maybe this weekend, i got a homie from out of town coming to visit so we will be lookin for something to do

nuocmam

01-23-2008, 03:39 PM

http://i30.tinypic.com/j14rbo.jpg

my new steering wheel (gotta love ebay right lol)

hmmm, how much was this? it looks to be a mass-produced ebay mugen knock-off...anyways how the swap looking?

DJ Hookid

01-23-2008, 03:54 PM

maybe this weekend, i got a homie from out of town coming to visit so we will be lookin for something to do

I work Sunday but Im off on Saturday. Do you have my #? LMK if you need it.

JDM_freak

01-23-2008, 07:20 PM

hmmm, how much was this? it looks to be a mass-produced ebay mugen knock-off...anyways how the swap looking?

the swaps coming just fine i decided to go with the 2006 tsx drivetrain for the swap i'm having trouble sourcing it tho... i think the steering wheel is a knock off mugen piece myself but no worries it was only $65 and it matches the interior perfectly so i'm ok with that.

josh

01-23-2008, 09:47 PM

Put a sbc in it that tank so it can move

goslonomo

01-23-2008, 10:07 PM

listen to justinD he is good with K-series, and if your getting serious about the K swap in your lude sign up for k20a.org, those guys are super smart and experienced.

JustinD

01-23-2008, 11:34 PM

i decided to go with the 2006 tsx drivetrain for the swap i'm having trouble sourcing it tho.

www.car-part.com

locash

01-24-2008, 12:15 AM

If you need a 2004 TSX motor with less than 10 miles on it, I have one without the transmission..

josh

01-24-2008, 10:15 AM

i have one also for the right price

televator

01-26-2008, 01:50 PM

That mugen kit was in SoCal wasn't it? Did you get it shipped or did you pick up? Man your car is even the same color as mine....

JDM_freak

01-29-2008, 12:01 AM

That mugen kit was in SoCal wasn't it? Did you get it shipped or did you pick up? Man your car is even the same color as mine....

ya i got it from SoCal its in really good condition i had it shipped out to me i've been busy as hell lately with school and work... i would have loved to go pick it up but priority came first... btw does anyone know of any good body shops in the west valley i'm by luke air force base and i can't seem to find one around here let me know guys thanx

televator

01-31-2008, 09:57 PM

ya i got it from SoCal its in really good condition i had it shipped out to me i've been busy as hell lately with school and work... i would have loved to go pick it up but priority came first... btw does anyone know of any good body shops in the west valley i'm by luke air force base and i can't seem to find one around here let me know guys thanx

I know of a REAL quality place. They painted a 97 ITR that belongs to one of my pals...I forgot the name though. I'll PM it you after I ask my friend. A fellow AZ Mugen collector deserves quality work.:thumbsup:

JDM_freak

02-01-2008, 12:03 AM

I know of a REAL quality place. They painted a 97 ITR that belongs to one of my pals...I forgot the name though. I'll PM it you after I ask my friend. A fellow AZ Mugen collector deserves quality work.:thumbsup:

thanks bro i really appreciate that. pm me the name of that place please by the way whats your ride maybe we could meet up and have a track day sometime.

F2D/JDM

02-02-2008, 03:17 AM

Heres some pics i found on the k20 swap!
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/motor-top.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/BBK-Installed.jpg

televator

02-02-2008, 01:00 PM

thanks bro i really appreciate that. pm me the name of that place please by the way whats your ride maybe we could meet up and have a track day sometime.

It's a '93 Si VTEC (color: BG-23M). Unfortunatly it has not been drivable after some thieves (some who are friends of members of this site, and who lurk this site themselves) got their damned hands on it.

Anyway I've got it stashed away along with a Mugen front and spoiler waiting for it.
Hopefully this year I can either get it painted or drop in a Euro R. Once I get it running, I'll send off my JDM H23A To get worked on...Yeah, a track meet will be a while. LOL!

PM sent.

n8jigga

02-04-2008, 11:04 AM

Heres some pics i found on the k20 swap!
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/motor-top.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/BBK-Installed.jpg

wow that is fuckin sweet, pretty unique swap that u dont see everyday

drift4agze

02-06-2008, 06:55 PM

its a k23 not k24.and the k20/24 trans wont just "bolt up" to it. im shure yor going to need an adapter plate which im shure they dont mass produce these things. not to mention the mant man hours it would take to put one in? im shure it would cost alot of money!! just keep the h22. i know they suck. but hang in there lol

DJ Hookid

02-06-2008, 06:57 PM

Puh,

H> B and D

drift4agze

02-06-2008, 07:08 PM

^^doubt that. then why are they so cheap? tensioners problems, shifting problems. and the list goes on. good luck with the build btw

JDM_freak

02-08-2008, 11:49 AM

^^doubt that. then why are they so cheap? tensioners problems, shifting problems. and the list goes on. good luck with the build btw
thanks man i'm not to into the h series engines myself i had trouble with them in the past so i'm going with a k24 out of a tsx... ans far as parts i have most everything for the swap i'm just looking for little odds and ends that can be found in the rsx... BTW i'm going in this week to get a quote on the paint and body work... but does anyone know if i can do a 5 lug conversion on my can???

n8jigga

02-08-2008, 12:07 PM

but does anyone know if i can do a 5 lug conversion on my can???

i havnt heard of a 5 lug conversion on a can? but if you wanted you could do one on a car, maybe a 4th gen prelude haha ya you can

JDM_freak

02-08-2008, 02:17 PM

n8jigga

02-08-2008, 06:29 PM

^^^ Funny^^^ Hey But Seriously If Anyone Has Any Information On A 5 Lug Conversion For A Forth Gen Prelude Please Let Me Know... Its Something I Really Want To Do With This Prelude To Push It Over The Edge!!!

i dont think it would be tough at all, just make sure when getting the fifth gen knuckles and and assembly that everything would work with the swap u are doing

some places for good write ups and info
preludepower..com
socalprelude.com
preludezone.com

JDM_freak

02-08-2008, 06:45 PM

^^^thanks Bro^^^ I Really Appreciate The Help!!!

DJ Hookid

02-10-2008, 04:08 PM

JDM_freak

02-14-2008, 05:09 PM

some one told me to use wheel spacers to make it five lug and use ap1 s2000 wheels does that make sense to anyone???

n8jigga

02-14-2008, 06:00 PM

some one told me to use wheel spacers to make it five lug and use ap1 s2000 wheels does that make sense to anyone???

maybe after you do the 5 lug conversion, i heard the rear s2k wheels will not fit because of the offset on the rim, but you have to have 5 lugs to fit an s2k wheel on your car so u need the conversion done first bro
whoever told you wheel spacers=5lug conversion:idiot::dumbass:

JustinD

02-14-2008, 06:12 PM

you just use these .. lol ...instant jdm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-LUG-to-5-LUG-BOLT-PATTERN-CONVERSION-KIT-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ370020682409QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 370020682409

93silverprelude

02-14-2008, 06:14 PM

Heres some pics i found on the k20 swap!
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/motor-top.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/JDMBB6/BBK-Installed.jpg

So sick!!!

JDM_freak

02-14-2008, 06:26 PM

you just use these .. lol ...instant jdm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-LUG-to-5-LUG-BOLT-PATTERN-CONVERSION-KIT-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ370020682409QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 370020682409

you knew what i was talking about if i use those on my lude do you think i'll be able to use rims that are 17x7 with a +48 offset??? cause thats the sixe of the rims i want on my car....

lude9701

02-14-2008, 09:28 PM

hey i dont know if they will fit but i have the suspension from a 98 5 lug accord on not sure if it will fit though cuz it was a v6

KingDingaLing

02-14-2008, 10:04 PM

the swaps coming just fine i decided to go with the 2006 tsx drivetrain for the swap i'm having trouble sourcing it tho... i think the steering wheel is a knock off mugen piece myself but no worries it was only $65 and it matches the interior perfectly so i'm ok with that.

stop reading this thread after you said this

JDM_freak

02-14-2008, 11:29 PM

stop reading this thread after you said this

i never got the steering wheel for just that reason... i'm not gonna slack on parts with this car so keep following the thread... and does anyone have the answer to my wheel backspacing question???

n8jigga

02-15-2008, 06:30 AM

i never got the steering wheel for just that reason... i'm not gonna slack on parts with this car so keep following the thread... and does anyone have the answer to my wheel backspacing question???

well if ur not slacking on parts for this car do the conversion the right way and then you dont need those egay parts

n8jigga

02-15-2008, 09:09 AM

this is what you need, this set was sold but thought this might help, i'm sure if you looked around at junkyards and such you could find these

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/n8jigga/prelude5lug.jpg

JDM_freak

02-15-2008, 09:42 AM

this is what you need, this set was sold but thought this might help, i'm sure if you looked around at junkyards and such you could find these

what car is it off of??? cause thats what i was looking for in the first place...

n8jigga

02-15-2008, 10:09 AM

[QUOTE=JDM_freak;764064]what car is it off of??? cause thats what i was looking for in the first place...[/QUOTE

they are off of a 5th gen prelude also have extended studs on them

televator

02-15-2008, 12:31 PM

I got my 5 lug swap off a 5th gen. You need to make sure you have everything along with the bars as some of the links are different from the 4th gen. I'll send you some pics to see what I mean. Oh yeah, you do need spacers, but I heard it wouldn't be as bad if you went with 5th gen axles.

tricken

02-15-2008, 04:55 PM

yea u can do a 5 lug as they aready said,
also s2k wheels work u just have to use 4 of the fronts becuase of the offset in the back, i was going to do a 5 lug swap on my wagon and rocks sh 5th gen rims, but good luck with ur k swap it will be a sweet mod and join us at preludepower.com

n8jigga

02-16-2008, 08:37 AM

televator

02-17-2008, 01:43 PM

^^doubt that. then why are they so cheap? tensioners problems, shifting problems. and the list goes on. good luck with the build btw

Ugh...lets not get into exaggerations and misconceptions. Why the hell do people feel the need to to throw mud? B series is great and relatively easy to swap and mod. H/F-series gains great power on somewhat low to high budget builds. K-series is H-series plus an extra gear and mechanical refinements.