super_civic
07-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Im going to be representing myself in court and its my first time pleading Not Guilty so I was wondering what should I expect or what should I do?
I know, its a long story but If you can read it, please give me some advise.
Alright, about a month ago me and some friends drove up to the White Tank Mountains after work to take some pictures of our cars up there, we got there about 7:00pm and I think the park closes at 8 on sundays. But when we got to the little gate/booth thing at the entrance there was a huge ass RV blocking the way in kinda...so me and my two friends squoze past him with our cars and continued up the mountain.
We cruised around looking for a good spot, found one, took pictures and suff and chilled for a while. Then we noticed what time it was, i saw my phone and it was 7:57! So we were like "oh shit lets go before we get locked in."
So we hop in our cars and start heading to the gate. And on the way there we were coming around a long ass sloping bend that was like a blind corner, so I was hugging the outside with my car to make sure not to hit any oncoming traffic that might be flying around this corner. And my fucking passengerside wheels catch the pebbles on the side of the road... So I quickly jerk the steering wheel to try to get it out, but i guess I countered too hard and the car popped out and started heading towards the other side of the road! So then I try to turn back again to the right real quick but my fucking crappy ass 185/65/R14 Nankang tires on my HX's gave out in the rear wheels and the whole backend of the car slid out. So my car slipped right off the road into the dirt and bushes and rocks and shit...
My friends stop, we try pushing and pulling it out with our hands and stuff, but no luck. I try driving out, and that didnt work either. So by then it was about 8:05 and fucking dark as hell on the mountain and one of my friends had to go so he left. And it was just me and my buddy with his Eclipse GSX. So we decide to call a friend with a truck and a rope to come and see if he can help pull my car out.
So we're waiting by the car and this maitnance SUV comes by, its some super ancient dude who looks like hes 80yrs old. I tell him what happened and ask if he can get a rope to pull the car out. And he says he'll go to the maitanence yard and check. So we were like "cool, thanks."
But then after 45 minutes, we didnt think he was coming back...so we lock up my car and get in the gsx and start heading up gate.
And thats when we see that SUV driving away from us! So we speed up to catch him and HE starts speeding up too! We're like "What the fuck?? Is he trying to get away?" So my friend drops a gear and punches it to catch him. We pull up alongside him and I ask "did you get a rope?" and the old guy says "No, I called someone with a truck and a winch to come help you guys"...
So we let him go and go back to my car to check on it...then wait another 30 minutes, and then decide to call my friend again who was supposed to come with a rope and we tell him its ok he doesnt have too. And we start heading up to the gate once again. But on the way up to the gate we run into this Big Ass Sheriff truck! And in my head im thinking...That motherfucker called the police!?...
So we tell him to follow us to my car and we go back.
Once we get there, I get out of the gsx and start heading to the Sheriff truck when he yells "STOP RIGHT THERE! PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK AND TURN AROUND!!" So im like holy shit? He gets out and handcuffs me...then goes over to the gsx and pulls my friend out of his car and handcuffs him too. He comes back over to me and says "You guys think this is your fuckin race track? I got reports saying you guys were racing around the mountain" I say "Who said we were racing? We were leaving the park?" I think he just ignored what I said...
Then he asks "How the fuck did your car get stuck then?" And I tell him the story, then he asks how fast I was going. And I said "I dont know like 25, but since I was on the slope I probably picked up speed so i dont, I wasnt looking at the speed." In all honesty I didnt even look at my speedometer when that happened I was paying attention to the road and trying to recover control of the car.
So he goes and sits in his truck for like 30 minutes. While me and my friend are sitting outside on the road in the dark on the mountain, and to add icing to the fucking cake it started to rain lol.
So the sheriff calls us over and he has us sign these tickets. On the tickets, my friend is charged with failure to pay park fee...and on mine its Speed not R&P, and I got failure to pay park fee.
But he wrote down for my speed I was going 45mph in a 25mph? I thought WTF? When did I say I was going 20mph over the speed limit? Whatever...I didnt want to argue with him about it because he was going to pull the car out for me.
So he uses the winch on the truck and we pull the car out, and to my suprise there wasnt any bad damage on the car. I got a scrape on the rear bumper and the heat shield underneath the car by the resonator was mangled, but thats all.
So we follow him to the gate, he unlocks it and we drive home.
I went to Buckeye court a few days ago and went before the judge and I told him what happened. He suspended the charges for Failure to Pay Park Fee, because it was our first time at the park, and he said it was very wierd in the speeding case. So I plead Not guilty and I have to take it to trial in like late august against the Sheriff.
I was wondering, how can a Officer give me a speeding ticket when he wasnt even there to witness the violation? It doesnt make sense because theres no way he could prove I was going that fast?
Any help is appreciated.
I know, its a long story but If you can read it, please give me some advise.
Alright, about a month ago me and some friends drove up to the White Tank Mountains after work to take some pictures of our cars up there, we got there about 7:00pm and I think the park closes at 8 on sundays. But when we got to the little gate/booth thing at the entrance there was a huge ass RV blocking the way in kinda...so me and my two friends squoze past him with our cars and continued up the mountain.
We cruised around looking for a good spot, found one, took pictures and suff and chilled for a while. Then we noticed what time it was, i saw my phone and it was 7:57! So we were like "oh shit lets go before we get locked in."
So we hop in our cars and start heading to the gate. And on the way there we were coming around a long ass sloping bend that was like a blind corner, so I was hugging the outside with my car to make sure not to hit any oncoming traffic that might be flying around this corner. And my fucking passengerside wheels catch the pebbles on the side of the road... So I quickly jerk the steering wheel to try to get it out, but i guess I countered too hard and the car popped out and started heading towards the other side of the road! So then I try to turn back again to the right real quick but my fucking crappy ass 185/65/R14 Nankang tires on my HX's gave out in the rear wheels and the whole backend of the car slid out. So my car slipped right off the road into the dirt and bushes and rocks and shit...
My friends stop, we try pushing and pulling it out with our hands and stuff, but no luck. I try driving out, and that didnt work either. So by then it was about 8:05 and fucking dark as hell on the mountain and one of my friends had to go so he left. And it was just me and my buddy with his Eclipse GSX. So we decide to call a friend with a truck and a rope to come and see if he can help pull my car out.
So we're waiting by the car and this maitnance SUV comes by, its some super ancient dude who looks like hes 80yrs old. I tell him what happened and ask if he can get a rope to pull the car out. And he says he'll go to the maitanence yard and check. So we were like "cool, thanks."
But then after 45 minutes, we didnt think he was coming back...so we lock up my car and get in the gsx and start heading up gate.
And thats when we see that SUV driving away from us! So we speed up to catch him and HE starts speeding up too! We're like "What the fuck?? Is he trying to get away?" So my friend drops a gear and punches it to catch him. We pull up alongside him and I ask "did you get a rope?" and the old guy says "No, I called someone with a truck and a winch to come help you guys"...
So we let him go and go back to my car to check on it...then wait another 30 minutes, and then decide to call my friend again who was supposed to come with a rope and we tell him its ok he doesnt have too. And we start heading up to the gate once again. But on the way up to the gate we run into this Big Ass Sheriff truck! And in my head im thinking...That motherfucker called the police!?...
So we tell him to follow us to my car and we go back.
Once we get there, I get out of the gsx and start heading to the Sheriff truck when he yells "STOP RIGHT THERE! PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK AND TURN AROUND!!" So im like holy shit? He gets out and handcuffs me...then goes over to the gsx and pulls my friend out of his car and handcuffs him too. He comes back over to me and says "You guys think this is your fuckin race track? I got reports saying you guys were racing around the mountain" I say "Who said we were racing? We were leaving the park?" I think he just ignored what I said...
Then he asks "How the fuck did your car get stuck then?" And I tell him the story, then he asks how fast I was going. And I said "I dont know like 25, but since I was on the slope I probably picked up speed so i dont, I wasnt looking at the speed." In all honesty I didnt even look at my speedometer when that happened I was paying attention to the road and trying to recover control of the car.
So he goes and sits in his truck for like 30 minutes. While me and my friend are sitting outside on the road in the dark on the mountain, and to add icing to the fucking cake it started to rain lol.
So the sheriff calls us over and he has us sign these tickets. On the tickets, my friend is charged with failure to pay park fee...and on mine its Speed not R&P, and I got failure to pay park fee.
But he wrote down for my speed I was going 45mph in a 25mph? I thought WTF? When did I say I was going 20mph over the speed limit? Whatever...I didnt want to argue with him about it because he was going to pull the car out for me.
So he uses the winch on the truck and we pull the car out, and to my suprise there wasnt any bad damage on the car. I got a scrape on the rear bumper and the heat shield underneath the car by the resonator was mangled, but thats all.
So we follow him to the gate, he unlocks it and we drive home.
I went to Buckeye court a few days ago and went before the judge and I told him what happened. He suspended the charges for Failure to Pay Park Fee, because it was our first time at the park, and he said it was very wierd in the speeding case. So I plead Not guilty and I have to take it to trial in like late august against the Sheriff.
I was wondering, how can a Officer give me a speeding ticket when he wasnt even there to witness the violation? It doesnt make sense because theres no way he could prove I was going that fast?
Any help is appreciated.