What supps do you use?

[SiR Mikey]

Just wondering what all you guys are taking. Post pics, list it, whatever.

I don't take much at all, and I buy cheapppp ass protein!

VitaSport Fuzion
Body Fortress whey protein "super recovery blend"
Omega 3 fish oil
Multi-vitamins

I absolutely hate how my protein tastes, but for the price I'll suck it down. I don't take it as often as I should, but I focus on my diet more than anything else I do/take.

[jfizzzle]

I can't do cheap protein man lol.

Right now my supplements consist of:

Nitro-tech (cookies and cream)
Creakic
Gakic
Glutamine (GNC brand, chewables)

[SiR Mikey]

I figure if I don't try anything else, I won't know what I'm missing out on :crazy:

[jfizzzle]

the first protein I ever tried was some cheap stuff from walmart, and now I'm scarred for life lol. Seriously, it was the thickest, dryest tasting shit ever. It took me like an hour to drink it because it was thick like peanut butter.

[SiR Mikey]

the first protein I ever tried was some cheap stuff from walmart, and now I'm scarred for life lol. Seriously, it was the thickest, dryest tasting shit ever. It took me like an hour to drink it because it was thick like peanut butter.

Six Star? (red and black container)

Or Body Fortress? (white and orange container)

[bmxican]

bsn syntha 6 for casein, that or muscle milk
EAS for my whey isolate only because its at sams club. I normally have Sports Nutrition Whey
Primal N20 for my pre-work out or NO-Shotgun as well
Omega 3 fish oils
Now Adams Multi-vitamin
Glucosamine chondrotin pills for your joints.
Bought my Creatine Monohydrate but am not going to do that till January.

[CZappettini]

just syntha 6 right now, and only after working out, took smash once (pre workout), fucking intense. gonna be trying more things now that i work for NRGize

[tfizzle]

I only am takint 2 things

NO-explode in the morning before my workout \

MUSCLEMILK after it...

I have the collegiate MuscleMilk also i useto supp my daily meals if i need to i am pretty busy

[1lowtacoma]

Badger milk
:thumbup:

never tried a supp, any noticable gains?

[CheezE46]

Ive tried alot of different supplements. I noticed the most gains and results with the following that I am currently taking

Animal Pak
Animal Cuts
BSN No Explode
Dymatize Z Force Anabolic Complex (ZMA)
Dymatize Elite Whey Protien ( was taking ON's whey , switched up and noticed huge difference)
ON's Casein
Omega 3
Glutamine Powder
ON's BCAA 5000 Powder
Chromium Picolinate

[joe_black]

I only use Synthetek Products. I tried Xyience NOxCg3 and BSN NoExplode products and I thought they were junk. The only things I liked from BSN were cheaters,dessert,and syntha 6. I still don't know what I think about axis-ht...

[jfizzzle]

Ive tried alot of different supplements. I noticed the most gains and results with the following that I am currently taking

Animal Pak
Animal Cuts
BSN No Explode
Dymatize Z Force Anabolic Complex (ZMA)
Dymatize Elite Whey Protien ( was taking ON's whey , switched up and noticed huge difference)
ON's Casein
Omega 3
Glutamine Powder
ON's BCAA 5000 Powder
Chromium Picolinate

damn thats a lot of supps. Does taking animal pak, cuts, and no explode at the same time make you feel different? l

[jdmEG-6]

was taking 350mg of test a week, but stopped do to stomach problems, now im just taking serious mass protien shakes...

[Lilrob]

i wanna start hitting the gym again. what do you guys suggest to take to help me build up muscle

if uve seen me you know im not big

[bmxican]

damn thats a lot of supps. Does taking animal pak, cuts, and no explode at the same time make you feel different? l

uhhh the animal pack is just a multi-vitamin man. NO explode is just a pre-workout.

[bmxican]

i wanna start hitting the gym again. what do you guys suggest to take to help me build up muscle

if uve seen me you know im not big

start taking in the proper requirements of protein to help boost your protein synthesis.

[CheezE46]

damn thats a lot of supps. Does taking animal pak, cuts, and no explode at the same time make you feel different? l

Yeah it is alot of supplements. I add my BCAA powder and Glutamine to my protein shakes throughout the day. I take my animal pak in the morning with breakfast. With my lunch and dinner, Ill take Omega 3 and Chromium. When I hit the gym at night, Ill take my animal cuts along with NO explode about 30 min before starting my workout. Before bed, ill make a casein shake and pop a few ZMA's. Definitely gives me a good boost in the gym, I do feel great taking the supplements.

Ive been doing this stack for about a year, Its given me the best results. I'm 270lbs at %18 body fat right now, my goal is a nice lean 250lbs.

[CheezE46]

i wanna start hitting the gym again. what do you guys suggest to take to help me build up muscle

if uve seen me you know im not big

I would suggest putting a workout together and busting your ass in the gym. You can start with the basics by buying a quality protein,eating ALOT of clean foods if you want to gain size and get plenty of sleep. You can start a hard gainer program also. You can PM me if you want some more information. I can also help you build a workout program to get you started, just let me know.

[Acurazor]

As you know Mikey I'm an addict!!!! LOL

BSN Syntha-6
BSN Nitrix
BSN No-Xplode
BSN Atro-Phex
BSN Lean Dessert
BSN Cellmass
Also I take papaya enzymes.

I know before you said alot of these products do the same thing. I honestly don't think they do, I love them all...............but I can not figure out what the difference is between syntha6 and dessert? Both protien. Only reason I have all these products is because a friend of mine owns a health shop.

[4inspeed]

^^damn ha ha

im only at:

bsn nitrix
no-xplode
cellmass
syntha-6 (or muscle milk, i switch it up every time i run out...)

[Acurazor]

Nice. I used muscle milk in the beginning, good stuff.

[jfizzzle]

Muscle milk :thumbup: tastes great

[TheRacer02]

does anyone know of a good recovery sup? im planing on going back to the gym now that hours were cut at work and i hate being sore then going to work

[Acurazor]

cellmass claims to speed up recovery. If you truly get a good workout and work them good, your gonna be sore. No supp can help with that haah.

[jfizzzle]

Glutamine everyday.. helps me alot

[SiR Mikey]

Just picked up some Scivation lemonade Xtend, curious to see how it is.

[LatinEM1]

where do you guys buy your supps? Online or at the store??

[Acurazor]

I get all of mine online. www.massnutrition.com best prices I have found.

[CheezE46]

I use DPSnutrition.com, cheapest Ive found yet. My last order was 14lbs, cost only 8 bucks to ship.

[jfizzzle]

If im in a hurry I go to GNC :thumbsdown: otherwise, I order from bodybuilding.com

[SiR Mikey]

Max Muscle or Nutrishop for me

[tfizzle]

I use DPSnutrition.com, cheapest Ive found yet. My last order was 14lbs, cost only 8 bucks to ship.

these guys have some of the best pricing online also if you guys take your checkout cart with shippin anywhere online HOUSE OF FITNESS will match it as long as u bring it in... so u dont gotta wait for it to get here. its what i do.. awesome program they offer

[H23vtec_ej7]

BSN Syntha 6
Size on
Superpump250
Vales Daily Clean
MAN Vaporize
ON ZMA
TwinLab Amino Fuel
Flinstones Vitamins

[crxsir]

idk i take gnc brand cause i cant really order to much shit it takes forever to get on base
hmb
amino 3000
multivitamins
L glutamine
alanine? or somethin like that i dont have it with me and cant remember
whey protein
and creatine

i work out about an hour and a half everyday(thanks to the army) and didnt see much improvement with the supps. i eat pretty good to so idk what else i need

[CZappettini]

ive found that Myolean protein is the shit, tons of vitamins, 42gr of protein per serving 1gr of sugar fucking awesome, love working around supplimnets

[blackouthx]

How would you guys rate No-explode? Ive just started hitting the gym again and wanted to try something new and to put a lil pep in my workout

[Acurazor]

I love it. I recently ran out and when I go to the gym without it, its just not the same. I mean yeah you still get a pump. But I just seem to feel my muscles get alot more fatagued(sp) quicker. Cant do as many reps. Maybe it's just the caffiene, I couldn't tell you, but I can say Id much rather have it than not.

[tfizzle]

How would you guys rate No-explode? Ive just started hitting the gym again and wanted to try something new and to put a lil pep in my workout

I like it alot. Its only a PREWORKOUT drink though. i thought i seen another member asking if we were getting gains from it or something. But i find it works i take it first thing in the morning at around 6 and heads to the gym. I finish my workouts. And i have always had goos stamina but this way i usually keep my weight and finish my reps without my form giving away to much.

I recommend it.

[Acurazor]

Yeah seems to give me much more endurance.

[bmxican]

I love NO SHOTGUN. Gives you the energy and pump.

[blackouthx]

Cool I think ill order some no explode and give it a shot, what flavor do you guys recomend, Grape? Fruit Punch? leomonade? Blue rasberry? Exotic Fruit? Lemon Lime? Orange?

im thinking fruit punch

[CheezE46]

Cool I think ill order some no explode and give it a shot, what flavor do you guys recomend, Grape? Fruit Punch? leomonade? Blue rasberry? Exotic Fruit? Lemon Lime? Orange?

im thinking fruit punch


Id recommend lemonade. The fruit punch was my least favorite, it was horrible actually. I liked lemonade and orange...

[tfizzle]

Cool I think ill order some no explode and give it a shot, what flavor do you guys recomend, Grape? Fruit Punch? leomonade? Blue rasberry? Exotic Fruit? Lemon Lime? Orange?

im thinking fruit punch

its gonna start tasting nasty to you after awhiel anyways... i have blue raspberry its ood i would try fruit punch

[blackouthx]

what does the taste compare too? Is it hard to take down?

Im gonna wait and see if GNC is gonna have any black friday deals

[johnb20]

How would you guys rate No-explode? Ive just started hitting the gym again and wanted to try something new and to put a lil pep in my workout

that shit is great.i was benching around 185 when i started using it iam up to 265 in 5 months. you recover quicker and hurts less. add some glautmine is great too

[KingDingaLing]

test 400. gets the blood pumping. makes me feel like a bull

[boostedrex]

I have been using SuperCharge! Xtreme N.O., and really like it but im just wondering if anyone else have used it and went on to something that worked better.

[blackouthx]

alright peeps just picked up some NO explode. :grin:

cant wait to try it out but im gonna have to until tomorrow cause studying for my calc test is owning my sunday.

[SiR Mikey]

Well, since the only nutrishop near me just moved to chandler it looks like I'm going to be switching to something else, unless someone knows where I can order Vitasport products online?

Looking at stacking white flood with Purple K next month

[Chinky]

what ever barry bonds was using...

[KevinBoosted]

im using megamen for a vitamin, today kinda went empty stomach mode at the gym working bis and tris (hammers, 21 guns, overheads) 1/2 mile on the olyptical for a cool down. 6 oz of ababolic od, followed by noodles, corn and peas with 12 oz of muscle milk and ate shitty for dinner lol im trying to get back into lifting but im so tired from work i barely got the motivation to get out of bed in the morning to go to the gym

[zegroth]

supplements are waste of money. your body has a limit to how much iron and different vitamins it can take. once it has hit its cap, all the extra is passed through urine or poo poo. best off just eating right, and less hand to monkey time. in doing that your body will build up more testosterone which will help create more muscle than more of your little white buddies.

[KevinBoosted]

supplements are waste of money. your body has a limit to how much iron and different vitamins it can take. once it has hit its cap, all the extra is passed through urine or poo poo. best off just eating right, and less hand to monkey time. in doing that your body will build up more testosterone which will help create more muscle than more of your little white buddies.

not everyone can just go to the gym and grow unless you have a perfect body. thats what supplements are there for. its actually helped me lose 15 lbs, and grown 8% muscle mass in the last 7 months

[jdmcivic1]

supplements are waste of money. your body has a limit to how much iron and different vitamins it can take. once it has hit its cap, all the extra is passed through urine or poo poo. best off just eating right, and less hand to monkey time. in doing that your body will build up more testosterone which will help create more muscle than more of your little white buddies.



I have a naturally fast metabolism and I take supps to help gain weight. If I had to gain weight without supps I would have to eat like 10 times a day to get the calories I get from supps.

Right now I take Mass XXX from gnc to gain weight and liquid creatine

[SiR Mikey]

supplements are waste of money.

Some, yes. Not all

your body has a limit to how much iron and different vitamins it can take. once it has hit its cap, all the extra is passed through urine or poo poo.

Yes, any extra will be passed out as waste. Our body can't get some of the necessary vitamins and minerals, or enough of them, to meet our bodies needs. EFA's are a prime example of this. I doubt you are getting a sufficient amount unless you live in Alaska and hunt salmon with the bears. This goes along with protein, creatine etc.

best off just eating right, and less hand to monkey time. in doing that your body will build up more testosterone which will help create more muscle than more of your little white buddies.

Myth

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south99.htm

Research>you

[jfizzzle]

^ lol

[Nedaaaah]

Mikey school'n em!

I just take cheap creatine from walmart or the vitaminshop

Multivitamins

And gnc protein that tastes like chocolate milk but has very little sugar.

[mixedCRX]

Nutrabio.com has all kinds of supplements. When I got my mass gainer and whey protein from them it was super fresh, but took a couple weeks to get. Very good place to buy from, competitive prices too.

[The God Damn Batman]

i dont even know where to start for supps.. I cant take some stuff it just makes me shit it all out
plus I got some kidney/stomach problems so i gotta take it easy on everything.. any suggestions? im a skinny dude, not crack head skinny but Im mainly just wanted to get cut a little more

[CZappettini]

personally i suggest myolean, i can get it for about $26 its got 15 serving 42g of protein almost no sugar and hella essential vitamins

[jfizzzle]

Just starting using fish oil pills and Muscletech's New Anabolic Halo...I'll let you guys know if it works

[SiR Mikey]

Completely quit all pre workout supplements and now only take multi's, fish oil, protein and Xtend.

I've been putting up more weight since I stopped than ever before, and my pumps are so much crazier than before. I start MassFX next week. Should be fun.

[jfizzzle]

^^ whats Xtend? that sounds like a penis enlargement commercial I saw the other night

[SiR Mikey]

Lol that's what everyone says when they see it on the counter

It's BCAA's

[B16offuryz]

viagra in the morning and viagra at night.

[LOGANLE]

I've worked out before and I am starting to work out again. My problem is I have stomach fat and bitch tits that I want to get rid of. I lift free weights so I have the mass and muscle it's just hiding out. Since I have the mass should I use protein, what should I eat as a diet, what other workouts should i do, and what supps shoud i take?

[Relix]

Protein & Multi vitamins

[jonnymos]

Didn't see the point in starting a new thread, SO......


Just picked up some Body Fortress Creatine (fruit punch)... First time using any type of supp. Figured its cheap so whyyyyy not.

Been taking it a few times a day the last 3 days to help get it into my system/saturate the muscles. Then will just take it post Training.

Should I pick up Protein as well? I eat tuna/salmon and chicken daily... trying to get a little bigger. I'm 5'11" 175.

Also thoughts about ZMA? good? bad? pointless?

[jonnymos]

ttt^?

[Digi Snax]

protein is alway good, I would pick up a syntha 6. thats what I take

along with animal pak multivitamins and optimum nutrition 100% whey

[HawaiianGSR]

Been in the gym for a while been doin GNC mass XXX, with animal multivitamins, and gnc whey protien. Had some good results. Jus got done doin a cutting cycle with animal cuts.

[SiR Mikey]

Didn't see the point in starting a new thread, SO......


Just picked up some Body Fortress Creatine (fruit punch)... First time using any type of supp. Figured its cheap so whyyyyy not.

Been taking it a few times a day the last 3 days to help get it into my system/saturate the muscles. Then will just take it post Training.

Should I pick up Protein as well? I eat tuna/salmon and chicken daily... trying to get a little bigger. I'm 5'11" 175.

Also thoughts about ZMA? good? bad? pointless?

How do you like it? I used to take their protein and about gagged every time I took it. I would grab a tub of protein too. I get mine from allthewhey.com. It's a couple dollars more than Body Fortress but it tastes amazing! Google coupons and you can usually find free shipping or xx% off your order. As for ZMA, it's up to you. I've never tried it, but it's supposed to make you sleep like a baby.

[jonnymos]

How do you like it? I used to take their protein and about gagged every time I took it. I would grab a tub of protein too. I get mine from allthewhey.com. It's a couple dollars more than Body Fortress but it tastes amazing! Google coupons and you can usually find free shipping or xx% off your order. As for ZMA, it's up to you. I've never tried it, but it's supposed to make you sleep like a baby.

I like the creatine.. the fruit punch flavor tastes pretty good and have seen some decent results... i actually picked up some of the body fortress Whey protein (strawberry) yesterday. I'm not sure where any health stores are that sell others and wally world is basically the only thing near me in QC. It doesn't taste tooooooo bad, but its not the greatest... mixed it with SILK. (Im lactose intolerant)

I'm definitely going to check that site and order some more for when te body fortress is out! Thanks yo!


Now 2 more questions..
1.)I was taking the creatine post work out and on the days i didnt lift I took it with breakfast. The protein says to take post workout..
Should I take both post work out?? Or just take the creatine every morning and the protein post.

2.) I hear once you stop using creatine your muscle could just get flabby because it is just water retention basically in your muscle. True? I've read mixed thoughts. and think adding the protein will help with this issue.

[SiR Mikey]

I like the creatine.. the fruit punch flavor tastes pretty good and have seen some decent results... i actually picked up some of the body fortress Whey protein (strawberry) yesterday. I'm not sure where any health stores are that sell others and wally world is basically the only thing near me in QC. It doesn't taste tooooooo bad, but its not the greatest... mixed it with SILK. (Im lactose intolerant)

I'm definitely going to check that site and order some more for when te body fortress is out! Thanks yo!


Now 2 more questions..
I've tried chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. Strawberry is the easiest to stomach of the 3 lol. I've tried a handful off allthewhey. Cinnabun is ok, peaches n cream sucks dick(I gave it away), candy cane is kinda bland, chocolate is A+ and vanilla caramel is like sex in your mouth.


1.)I was taking the creatine post work out and on the days i didnt lift I took it with breakfast. The protein says to take post workout..
Should I take both post work out?? Or just take the creatine every morning and the protein post.
People argue back and forth when the best time to take it is. I've done pre and post and never felt a difference(with pure mono). If yours is a blend of other stuff, I'd take it about 30 minutes before working out.

2.) I hear once you stop using creatine your muscle could just get flabby because it is just water retention basically in your muscle. True? I've read mixed thoughts. and think adding the protein will help with this issue.
Only certain creatines will retain water. Once you stop taking the creatine, your muscles will actually be a lot harder with a hair more definition.

I wouldn't worry too much about supplements to be honest. I've tried so many, spent so much money and have never felt much of a difference with any of them(except for the placebo affect they had when I first started lifting). Right now I'm taking nothing but the basics (multi vitamin, fish oil, protein, bcaa) and putting the rest of the money I normally spend into (more) food and have seen much better results.

[lightspeedfastcivic]

This crap is just annoying. Why cant we just eat and be lazy daily and gain weight. All these supps cost a lot of money and for a very small gain. Im trying to get a good 60 pounds to hit 200 pound area. And its just not working.

[SiR Mikey]

This crap is just annoying. Why cant we just eat and be lazy daily and gain weight. All these supps cost a lot of money and for a very small gain. Im trying to get a good 60 pounds to hit 200 pound area. And its just not working.

How many calories do you eat a day?

[jonnymos]

I've tried chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. Strawberry is the easiest to stomach of the 3 lol. I've tried a handful off allthewhey. Cinnabun is ok, peaches n cream sucks dick(I gave it away), candy cane is kinda bland, chocolate is A+ and vanilla caramel is like sex in your mouth.

LOL I'll steer clear of those not so great flavors.


People argue back and forth when the best time to take it is. I've done pre and post and never felt a difference(with pure mono). If yours is a blend of other stuff, I'd take it about 30 minutes before working out.

Yeah, I didn't think it would make a huge difference to take it pre/post work out. The body fortress creatine has a bunch of other stuff in it so i've been taking it post work out to spike insulin levels helping absorb the creatine and what not.




Only certain creatines will retain water. Once you stop taking the creatine, your muscles will actually be a lot harder with a hair more definition.

Good to know.



I wouldn't worry too much about supplements to be honest. I've tried so many, spent so much money and have never felt much of a difference with any of them(except for the placebo affect they had when I first started lifting). Right now I'm taking nothing but the basics (multi vitamin, fish oil, protein, bcaa) and putting the rest of the money I normally spend into (more) food and have seen much better results.

Yeah, I think I may ditch the creatine (once I finish what I have) and just stick to basically what your taking besides the fish oil, I eat alot of fish. I definitely need more/better foods. I've been eating chunk light tuna in a can but think I'm going to start eating the Albacore because of the higher protein and less mercury. Totally going to get some more chicken breasts tonight (im all out :( )


Thanks for the info dude. I've tried Bodybuilding.com and Getbig.com but you kinda get flamed for asking basic questions.

[SiR Mikey]

LOL I'll steer clear of those not so great flavors.


Yeah, I didn't think it would make a huge difference to take it pre/post work out. The body fortress creatine has a bunch of other stuff in it so i've been taking it post work out to spike insulin levels helping absorb the creatine and what not.




Good to know.




Yeah, I think I may ditch the creatine (once I finish what I have) and just stick to basically what your taking besides the fish oil, I eat alot of fish. I definitely need more/better foods. I've been eating chunk light tuna in a can but think I'm going to start eating the Albacore because of the higher protein and less mercury. Totally going to get some more chicken breasts tonight (im all out :( )


Thanks for the info dude. I've tried Bodybuilding.com and Getbig.com but you kinda get flamed for asking basic questions.
Fuck, bb.com destroys you for asking these kinda questions. Teen misc. is fun to read tho. Kids asking about lumps on their balls, what a vagina feels like, etc. Makes me LOL. I love albacore in the pouch but it gets expensive fast. Chicken breasts are where its at. Like 220 calories, 30g of protein and almost no fat. Tilapia is good too. Really easy to cook and absorbs the flavor of whatever you cook it in really well. Good luck man, just remember to eat yourself sick lol.

[jonnymos]

LOL at the teen questions I've read through some, cracks me up. Tilapia is sooo good. I definitely need to be eating moooore food. I'll get there soon enough.


:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[KingDingaLing]

i love trying everything( probably bad for me in the long run), but im currently taking JACK3D. so far i love it. i drink about 6 litres of water a day. back to eating 6 eggs in the morning with 4 slices of turkey bacon. 3 cans of tuna at lunch. and 3 chicken breast around 6pm. ive lost 23 pounds in the last 2 months and my strength is going through the roof. upper body is getting rather big also.

[SiR Mikey]

i love trying everything( probably bad for me in the long run), but im currently taking JACK3D. so far i love it. i drink about 6 litres of water a day. back to eating 6 eggs in the morning with 4 slices of turkey bacon. 3 cans of tuna at lunch. and 3 chicken breast around 6pm. ive lost 23 pounds in the last 2 months and my strength is going through the roof. upper body is getting rather big also.

Dude you're "rather big" PERIOD! Like a tank lol. I've tried so much shit and never felt a difference from any of it. I've taken just plain creatine multiple times and actually have more strength when I quit taking it. I don't understand it. I'm waiting for the new e-bol to come out. It looks promising, although Mass fx did too and that was a huge let down. I wish I wasn't so set on staying natural, otherwise id just run a PH cycle and call it a day.

[randizle]

Dude you're "rather big" PERIOD! Like a tank lol. I've tried so much shit and never felt a difference from any of it. I've taken just plain creatine multiple times and actually have more strength when I quit taking it. I don't understand it. I'm waiting for the new e-bol to come out. It looks promising, although Mass fx did too and that was a huge let down. I wish I wasn't so set on staying natural, otherwise id just run a PH cycle and call it a day.

ph cycles are kinda point less, i have done about 5-6 cycles in the past 1-2yrs and when you come off the cycle even with proper pct's it's so hard to make gains and it seems like it takes even longer to put on qwality size.

i had my lab work done after taking super drol for one month and 2 of my liver enzymes where sky high "due to toxtic shit from pills" and my bad cholesterol was at 160 and my good cholesterol was at 4 lol

i say take the real stuff sestonon 250 ftw it has 4 different testosterones in it with out having a lot of toxic "methyelated" shit runing threw your liver.

[SiR Mikey]

ph cycles are kinda point less, i have done about 5-6 cycles in the past 1-2yrs and when you come off the cycle even with proper pct's it's so hard to make gains and it seems like it takes even longer to put on qwality size.

i had my lab work done after taking super drol for one month and 2 of my liver enzymes where sky high "due to toxtic shit from pills" and my bad cholesterol was at 160 and my good cholesterol was at 4 lol

i say take the real stuff sestonon 250 ftw it has 4 different testosterones in it with out having a lot of toxic "methyelated" shit runing threw your liver.

What did you run cycles of? I wouldn't expect any amazing gains with a PH, I just think that's something that I may actually feel affecting my body. Its blood work like yours that scares me and keeps me away from them, plus I have a lot more natural potential left. If it were to come down to that though, I would go for the real stuff without a doubt. Also, were you taking liver support? And what pct? Out of curiosity

[boostedrex]

Dude you're "rather big" PERIOD! Like a tank lol. I've tried so much shit and never felt a difference from any of it. I've taken just plain creatine multiple times and actually have more strength when I quit taking it. I don't understand it. I'm waiting for the new e-bol to come out. It looks promising, although Mass fx did too and that was a huge let down. I wish I wasn't so set on staying natural, otherwise id just run a PH cycle and call it a day.

I feel the same way, i have tried many different products and it seems like once im off it i really start feeling the strength gains. I heard so many good reviews from mass fx and i have to agree that it was a let down, right now im sticking to protein shakes, and basic vitamins. This might be the best i have felt in a while too, im 185 squat 4 plates, dead lift 4 plates, and pretty sure i can bench 3 plates (havent benched heavy since i hurt my shoulder a while back but did 275 a few times and felt good)

[jakellama123]

[QUOTE=SiR Mikey;1726962] vanilla caramel is like sex in your mouth.


[QUOTE]
dont even get me started babygurl
ive shown u sex in your mouff:th_supergay:
nohomo

[KingDingaLing]

Dude you're "rather big" PERIOD! Like a tank lol. I've tried so much shit and never felt a difference from any of it. I've taken just plain creatine multiple times and actually have more strength when I quit taking it. I don't understand it. I'm waiting for the new e-bol to come out. It looks promising, although Mass fx did too and that was a huge let down. I wish I wasn't so set on staying natural, otherwise id just run a PH cycle and call it a day.

lol i know right.... im sitting at 285 right now. i didnt realize how big i was till i stood next to my friend in a pic i made him look like a dwarf

[2.0eg-si]

cell mass performance igniter noxplod recovery drink and xenadrine rfa-x

[randizle]

What did you run cycles of? I wouldn't expect any amazing gains with a PH, I just think that's something that I may actually feel affecting my body. Its blood work like yours that scares me and keeps me away from them, plus I have a lot more natural potential left. If it were to come down to that though, I would go for the real stuff without a doubt. Also, were you taking liver support? And what pct? Out of curiosity

for liver support i was taking milk thistle 80% silymarin 3 pills a day while on cycle as well as off, and for pct i was taking week1-6 nolvadex @ 20 mg ed
week1-10 HGH 2iu ed.

Right now im 5'8 161lbs and not very lean:smirk: i just need to stick to the basics of proper diet and eating to make gaines.

[BigJsaid]

prime, micronized glutamine, and any whey isolate....wowee is all i gotta say!

[BB6 SwAg]

100% Gold Standard Whey, GNC mega man sport vitamin packs, and mega green T ultra green T.

[Fc3sEp3Fan]

naNO Vapor (Pre)
intraVOL (during)
Nitrotech(after)
ON Casein Protein (before bed)

[randizle]

Hard part about trying to add size is diet diet diet, supps won't do anything if your not eating 5-6 meals a day and throw in 2-3 shakes a day, you will grow more than taking any supp.

[The Guido]

Tyson chicken tenders will make your forearm HUGE!

[bb4arson]

i want to start taking
either one of these to help me bulk up more i know ive heard you could just eat more thru the day but sometimes its hard .getting to those massive calories.

should i get 2 of these? 6 pounds
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/gainer.html

or should i get one 10 pounder of this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html

or this one?12 lbs im having trouble figuring this out
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/sm.html

i want to put on the pounds =)

[bb4arson]

i might go with the 2 cytogainers since i will probably get more serving but kinda need some opinions