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bseries1320 12-01-2011 02:25 PM

what pre-workout do you use?
 
Headed to the gym now and looking to pick up on some pre workout.

Does anyone here use it?if so,what kind?

I'm looking more towards the"juiced".

Does anyone know if its effective?any input is welcome

Spec C 12-01-2011 05:54 PM

Never heard of the "juiced". Link to said product?

Do you want a real ergogenic aid, or something that cracks you out on cheap ass stims, but is worthless otherwise?

95.ls.teg 12-01-2011 07:13 PM

i use juiced and its by far the best pre workout i have used, just be ready to counter it with some melatonin otherwise you will be up until about 3AM.

start it with 1 scoop first 5 times , then bump up to 2 scoops

fruit punch flavor tastes really good. its 5 times stronger than jacked 3D

SOLMAN92 12-01-2011 08:17 PM

i use water and gatorade haha Natural homies

bseries1320 12-01-2011 08:39 PM

Too bad that doesn't work^

And yes,I got the power punch.gonna start up on it tomorrow along with my methasedrol

PROJECT EG6 12-01-2011 08:42 PM

forget the gym get p90x and work out at home

bseries1320 12-01-2011 08:56 PM

Lolsrsly?

Spec C 12-01-2011 09:02 PM

So how about a link to the product you are taking?

The only pre-workout I see with that name is a horribly formulated one with the addition of a pro-hormone in it(WTF?). Pretty dumb-ass product, and I would hope that isn't what you are taking.lol If so hopefully you understand exactly what it is, you are taking.

BigJsaid 12-01-2011 10:06 PM

I been usin black powder. Shits pretty alright. I've noticed strength, focus and intensity improve versus days where I've said fuck it. Its pretty quick release shit too so I'm never left wondering if its absorbed yet

bseries1320 12-01-2011 11:53 PM


bmxican 12-02-2011 02:01 AM

viagra insane pumps.:smackself:

Spec C 12-02-2011 07:09 AM

lol.. That is it..

I hope you understand EXACTLY what it is that you are taking, which I clearly don't think you do, as I would like to believe you are smarter then that. I would have to think you just didn't notice the hormone in it by its semi deceptive label.

It is pretty shady for a company to do that quite honestly.

If you want to run a cycle:
1. Run a REAL cycle
2. Run a PH/PS cycle, that is well planned, using proper doses. How can you even be sure of the dose you are taking of MAX LMG, when it is mixed in a powder, you are taking with a scooper? We are talking doses of 10-40mg here, that is MINISCULE.

bseries1320 12-02-2011 10:17 AM

That one is different then the one I have.but I couldn't find the exact one.will post pics of mine.

bseries1320 12-02-2011 10:28 AM


bseries1320 12-02-2011 10:30 AM

Here is the ACTUAL link

Dirt McGirk 12-02-2011 11:42 AM

I'm taking n.o. explode from bsn right now. Its ok, I need to learn more about nutrition badly.

Was on Neuro-core before this and became used to the stims very quickly.

Spec C 12-02-2011 12:06 PM

Well at least THAT version doesn't have a god damn hormone in it..lol That was a recipe for disaster!

Still very poorly formulated, underdosed on ingredients(creatine, beta alanine, etc), and focuses on stims for effect.

I would have trouble trusting that company quite honestly. I would have a very hard time believing what they say is in that bottle really is.

If you want some recommendations for a few products with some actual ergogenic properties, when that is done, let me know!

So does yours have this listed under the ingredients?
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5 (10)dien-17-one - 35 g

bseries1320 12-02-2011 12:23 PM

Creatine monohydrate 1.5 g
Arginine akg 1.5g
Beta alanine 750mg
Caffeine 150mg
1.3 dimethylamylamine 25mg

trdtc480 12-02-2011 02:41 PM

I like using Speed Stack from ABB because im lazy to mix my preworkouts nowadays. Gotta carry a shaker with the product which takes up more space in my bag so I switched.

AZ_CIVIC 12-02-2011 02:48 PM

I drink a cup of coffee, its gives you the same pump as most pre work out crap and is way cheaper.

bseries1320 12-02-2011 03:19 PM

Hahaha .wayyy cheaper

Spec C 12-02-2011 04:41 PM

No... No it doesn't. It may give you energy however. Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, which will actually NEGATE a pump.

The point of a GOOD pre-wo is not just energy, but the ergogenic aids. Stuff the will provide legitimate increases in endurance, muscular endurance, etc.. Not to crack you out on caffeine.

bseries1320 12-02-2011 06:15 PM

spec c did i answer your question?

Spec C 12-02-2011 06:28 PM

Sorry about that. Yes that answered it.

The good news is you don't have the dangerous version. The bad is, it is just a poorly formulated, turd of a product.lol

They ovedose on cheap stims(1,3 and caff) and under dose the good ingredients like creatine and beta a. To get a full dose of those you need like 3 servings which is 450 mg of caffeine lol no thanks.

bseries1320 12-02-2011 07:36 PM

What do you recommend ?

bmxican 12-02-2011 08:22 PM

bcaa's, crystal light,Swedish Oat Starch, PeptoPro, Glycerol, Creatine Monohydrate, L-Glutamine, Sea Salt, ready to roll bustas!

Spec C 12-02-2011 10:22 PM

Kinda like MG's powdered muscle eh? hah I like that stuff. Used it today Intra-post, with added 20g of liquid egg whites. :) Add some BA and you are good to go.

That is less a pre-wo and more a peri-workout "meal" however.

As for stimmed products.
San fierce. I really like this stuff. Probably my go to pre-wo, but I will rotate.

First off this is made in a CGMP facility, not some jabroni's basement, with fully tested ingredients.

FULL dose of creatine with creatine nitrate(love this stuff), full serving of BA, only 200mg caffiene, and loaded with other ergo-aids.

Awesome value as well. 50 servings AT FULL DOSE.. Look at the serving size as well. 16.5g vs Juiced's 4.5g, and you need 2-3 servings to get ANY benefit from the creatine, etc. If you train 3x a week that is 4 months at full dose, for $30.



XF Vengeance. For many of the same reasons above, plus protein,BCAA, etc


SP MAX



For non stim this stuff is VERY good. No BS, all solid ingredients, dosed accurately. Creatine, and amino nitrates. It is a damn steal as well.

Add a 200mg caffeine tab if desired for some stim(super cheap) and you got yourself a really solid pre-wo, with actual benefit.

bmxican 12-02-2011 10:27 PM

heck ya! He had posted before his formula was picked up by TP and thats when I bought all the ingredients. I eat some walnuts/almonds and maybe even a caffeine pill to get a stim in. If I want to get a great pump and have the stuff on hand lots o water arginine and citrulline boooom!

bmxican 12-02-2011 10:29 PM

never understood if you want a stim/boost just buy some caffeine pills at like 5-10 bucks for a 50 cap bottle! be set for a while!

bseries1320 12-03-2011 02:28 AM

Thanks for the info spec c.

I'm gonna definitely try those


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