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Dead Bird 08-31-2009 02:34 PM

B Series All-Motor Cams Comparison
 
Aftermarket Camshaft Comparison
This is done more as a reference for myself
and the people who stand behind
certain brands as being "the best".
And me doing it myself lets at least ME know that the info is correct.
All information is taken directly from the brands' websites.
BLOX and Skunk2 website only gave lift values in inches on some. Blox's categories could use reorganized.
I used this site for the conversion:
http://www.convertunits.com/from/inches/to/mm

Buddy Club:
Racing Spec III Plus(their lowest stage or what I'll consider stage one)
Intake Cam: 11.4mm lift 296* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.8mm lift 290* duration

Spec IV Extreme(stage 2)
Intake Cam: 12.3mm lift 306* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.8mm lift 302* duration

Spec V Extreme
Intake Cam: 12.8mm lift 312* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.8mm lift 306* duration

Spec VI Extreme
Intake Cam: 11.8mm lift 319* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 307* duration

Brian Crower
Stage 2
Intake Cam: 12.0mm lift 306* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.0mm lift 300* duration

Stage 3
Intake Cam: 12.6mm lift 310* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.6mm lift 308* duration

OBX-R
Stage 1
Intake Cam: 11.6mm lift 252* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 249* duration

Stage 2
Intake Cam: 12.3mm lift 266* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.8mm lift 262* duration

Stage 3
Intake Cam: 12.8mm lift 273* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.5mm lift 273* duration

BLOX Tuner Series
TYPE-A
Intake Cam: 11.7mm lift 247* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10.7mm lift 239* duration

TYPE-B
Intake Cam: 12.4mm lift 266* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.0mm lift 266* duration

HSL (High Speed Lift)
Intake Cam: 12.6mm lift 255* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.5mm lift 256* duration

Stage I
Intake Cam: 11.9mm lift 264* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.0mm lift 259* duration

Stage II
Intake Cam: 12.4mm lift 275* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 270* duration

Stage III
Intake Cam: 12.8mm lift 272* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 280* duration

BLOX Competition Series
TYPE-B
Intake Cam: 12.4mm lift 266* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.0mm lift 266* duration

HSL (High Speed Lift)
Intake Cam: 12.6mm lift 255* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.5mm lift 256* duration

TYPE-C
Intake Cam: 12.2mm lift 268* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.6mm lift 264* duration

Skunk2 Tuner Series
Stage 1
Intake Cam: 11.6mm lift 249* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10.8mm lift 244* duration

Stage 2
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 262* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 260* duration

Stage 3
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 263* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 271* duration

Skunk2 Pro Series
Stage 1
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 296* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 298* duration

Stage 2
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 302* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.6mm lift 312* duration

Stage 3
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 315* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 317* duration

TODA Racing
1st Gen Spec-A
Intake Cam: 11.6mm lift 290* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.2mm lift 280* duration

2nd Gen Spec-A
Intake Cam: 12mm lift 295* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12mm lift 285* duration

Spec-B
Intake Cam: 12mm lift 295* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12mm lift 285* duration

1st Gen Spec-C
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 295* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.5mm lift 295* duration

2nd Gen Spec-C
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 300* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.5mm lift 300* duration

VTEC Killers available in:
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 285, 295, 305* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.0mm lift 285, 295, 305* duration

Erick's Racing Special Spec D's
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 305* Duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.6mm lift 314* Duration

Rocket Motorsports
M20
Intake Cam: 11.5mm lift 274* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.5 mm lift 274* duration

M21
Intake Cam: 11.6 mm lift 274* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.6 mm lift 274* duration

M22
Intake Cam: 12.1mm lift 284* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.1mm lift 284* duration

M24e
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 303* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.7mm lift 303* duration

M24x
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 298* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.1mm lift 305* duration

M25
Intake Cam: 12.1mm lift 310* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.1mm lift 310* duration

M25e
Intake Cam: 13.3mm lift 316* duration
Exhaust Cam: 13.3mm lift 316*duration

JUN AUTO
Type 0
Intake Cam: 11.7mm lift 292* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.3mm lift 284* duration

Type 1
Intake Cam: 10.9mm lift 300* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10.0mm lift 300* duration

Type 2
Intake Cam: 12.0m lift 300* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10.9mm lift 300* duration

Type 3
Intake Cam: 12.0mm lift 304* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.5mm lift 304* duration

Type 4
Intake Cam: 12.5mm lift 304* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.5mm lift 304* duration

Piper Cams
Fast Road
Intake Cam: 11.2mm lift 278* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10.3mm lift 272* duration

Extreme Road
Intake Cam: 11.6mm lift 304* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.2mm lift 280* duration

Comp Cams
Stage I
Intake Cam: 12.4mm lift 282* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 286* duration

Stage II
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 292* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.2mm lift 296* duration

Stage III
Intake Cam: 13.0mm lift 302* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.4mm lift 306* duration

Web Cams
http://www.webcamshafts.com/index_bl...le_search.html

Endyn Bump Stix
Intake Cam: 12.2174mm lift 268* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.6332mm lift 264* duration

Edelbrock Cams
Intake cam: 12.446mm lift 288* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.5316mm lift 266* duration

Greddy
GREX Cams
Intake Cam: 11.5mm lift 292* duration
Exhaust Cam: 10mm life 286* duration

Kelford Cams
176-B ("Ultimate Street cam")
Intake cam: 11.8mm lift 284* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.25mm lift 280* duration

176-C ("Circuit racing cam")
Intake cam: 11.80mm lift 288* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.25mm lift 290* duration

176-D ("Drag Racing or track day cams")
Intake cam: 11.8mm lift 292* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.25mm lift 298* duration

176-E ("ALLMOTOR Drag racing camshafts")
Intake cam: 12.7mm lift 300* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.75mm lift 306* duration

176-X Custom Camshaft Set
Custom camshafts ground to your specifications to suit Honda B16A and B18C VTEC engines. Learn More

176-F
VTEC ELIMINATOR High RPM Circuit race cams
11.80mm lift 292*duration (both?)

176-G
VTEC ELIMINATOR cams
Intake cam: 12.7mm lift 300* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.75mm lift 306* duration

Crane
- Stage 1 (part no. 2530010 - $773.33/price)
Intake cam: 11.6mm lift, 243* duration
Exhaust cam: 10.8mm lift, 237* duration

- Stage 2 (part no. 2530012)
Intake cam: 11.99mm lift, 248* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.6 mm lift,242* duration

- Stage 3 (part no. 2530016)
Intake cam: 12.39 mm lift, 254* duration
Exhaust cam: 11.99 mm lift, 248* duration


working on others

honduh_head 08-31-2009 02:55 PM

post #32

http://www.azht.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55935

Dead Bird 08-31-2009 03:08 PM

According to so far the 2 companies I looked at between mine and his, his are wrong for both Buddy Club and Crower, his aren't accurate via the Companies' websites. And his graph and the written portion aren't congruent with eachother.

I've read that thread several times.
I'm trying to list all brands too, he's already missing a few that i have, as am i visa versa though

i like this one much better:
http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=371

And this one has an AZHT banner, not b20vtec :thumbsup:

honduh_head 09-02-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Bird Teggy (Post 1635567)
According to so far the 2 companies I looked at between mine and his, his are wrong for both Buddy Club and Crower, his aren't accurate via the Companies' websites. And his graph and the written portion aren't congruent with eachother.

I've read that thread several times.
I'm trying to list all brands too, he's already missing a few that i have, as am i visa versa though

i like this one much better:
http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=371

And this one has an AZHT banner, not b20vtec :thumbsup:

well lemme know when yer done and i'll sticky it ;)

Dead Bird 09-02-2009 12:18 AM

you dont have to make it its own sticky, just replace the older on.

Plan on calling Rocket motorsports and Skunk2 tomorrow to ask about the numbers on their sites. some are a bit off as described above.

And i'm disappointed crane cams went out of business. crane? or which one was it again?

honduh_head 09-02-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Bird Teggy (Post 1637898)
you dont have to make it its own sticky, just replace the older on.

Plan on calling Rocket motorsports and Skunk2 tomorrow to ask about the numbers on their sites. some are a bit off as described above.

And i'm disappointed crane cams went out of business. crane? or which one was it again?

pretty sure it was crane. and rocket has all their stuff up, i was just reading it a few months ago. huuuuge fan of their stuff ;)

Dead Bird 09-02-2009 12:47 AM

on their m25e the exhaust duration says 216. pretty sure it is supposed to say 316

honduh_head 09-02-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Bird Teggy (Post 1637944)
on their m25e the exhaust duration says 216. pretty sure it is supposed to say 316

haha yeeeaaaaaahhhhh lol

I Hate Import Cars 09-03-2009 01:43 AM

Comp Cams makes pretty decent B Series cams as well, if anyone cares to look into an American built part.

honduh_head 09-03-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Hate Import Cars (Post 1639555)
Comp Cams makes pretty decent B Series cams as well, if anyone cares to look into an American built part.

this is all i could find spec wise on their cams... got anything else?

http://www.compcams.com/catalog/192_193.jpg

honduh_head 09-03-2009 03:45 PM

*added to your list for you mickey*


Comp Cams

Stage I
Intake Cam: 12.4mm lift 282* duration
Exhaust Cam: 11.9mm lift 286* duration

Stage II
Intake Cam: 12.7mm lift 292* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.2mm lift 296* duration

Stage III
Intake Cam: 13.0mm lift 302* duration
Exhaust Cam: 12.4mm lift 306* duration

honduh_head 09-03-2009 03:54 PM

i also edited all lifts to show the value xx.xmm as in to show to the tenth of a millimeter

honduh_head 09-03-2009 04:08 PM

also added skunk tuner/pro series from their website. the values you should have been looking at was "@ .050"

Dead Bird 09-04-2009 02:43 AM

sank you

honduh_head 09-04-2009 10:27 AM

my pleasure :-*

Dead Bird 09-04-2009 03:29 PM

i like how you rounded the m25e's

honduh_head 09-04-2009 06:31 PM

I rounded a lot of them up where needed. Or down if the hundredth digit was 4 or less.

Dead Bird 09-19-2009 10:30 PM

added web camsssssss

Dead Bird 09-19-2009 10:30 PM

kinda....

honduh_head 09-20-2009 03:56 PM

rofl.

mr.DUNK 09-22-2009 12:00 AM

They also have protypes that were made and could be made if you asked rocket called them m24xxx or some bullshit maybe there the m25's now, ill get the measurements

We had them made for our 86mm 13.5 comp lsvtec, rlz head, rmf step up header, modified skunk2 intake manifold made 260whp good little motor back in 2004 when we built it.

Dead Bird 09-22-2009 07:19 AM

Ill take your word on rocket, but Crower and Web, amongst others, also has custom cams available upon request, including regrinds.

honduh_head 09-24-2009 12:34 AM

wasn't the toda spec 4's a regrind of rockets? or they used rocket blanks?

Dead Bird 09-24-2009 12:39 AM

Erick's Racing had Toda custom make the Spec D's.
Dunno about the rocket thing though.

You can check out their website still and it says it. I'll post link

Dead Bird 09-24-2009 12:40 AM

Here it is

http://ericksracing.com/id14.html


not super impressive.
Not toooo shabby though

DEGREES EX
314
HIGH CAM VALVE LIFT
11.6
SECONDARY CAM VALVE LIFT
11.0
PRIMARY CAM VALVE LIFT
11.0
TAPPET CLEARANCE
0.2
DEGREES IN
305
HIGH CAM VALVE LIFT
12.5
SECONDARY CAM VALVE LIFT
11.0
PRIMARY CAM VALVE LIFT
11.0
TAPPET CLEARANCE
0.2

honduh_head 09-25-2009 05:08 PM

Oh yeahhhhh forgot about ericks racing. I like the toda spec d's. I would run em anyway

Dead Bird 10-19-2009 02:16 PM

Endyn Bump Stix Added

honduh_head 10-20-2009 03:02 PM

lemme know when you want this posted in the stickies

Dead Bird 10-20-2009 03:04 PM

I can edit it once it's there, right? may as well post it whenever you want. I add more anytime i find or remember other companies.

honduh_head 10-20-2009 03:12 PM

posted in the b series section. just post here if you want me to add anything


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