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Old 03-19-2013, 12:48 PM   #61
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That is because 98% chance you are a weak big mouth faggot, who has never lifted shit.lol
YOLO, you only lifted once.... BRO
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:04 PM   #62
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I leave for a month and I come back, and its noob/troll central in this bitch.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:10 PM   #63
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I leave for a month and I come back, and its noob/troll central in this bitch.
Glad to see you're back, my schedule finally stabilized. So I want to work out again
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:16 PM   #64
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Nice. Once you get on a solid schedule and routine things start coming a long easier.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:18 PM   #65
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Nice. Once you get on a solid schedule and routine things start coming a long easier.
Well hopefully rufus or spec will be able to go
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:23 PM   #66
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your out chandler way right? I'm all the way up in north scottsdale. You guys are a decent trek for me.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:56 PM   #67
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your out chandler way right? I'm all the way up in north scottsdale. You guys are a decent trek for me.
Yea otherwise I would have hit you up first
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:05 PM   #68
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the way I see it,

biceps + lats+ back + forearms are worked by pulling

chest + triceps + shoulders + forearms are worked by pushing

do you agree?
Yessir. But I would only do that about a month then change up the groups. Like chest/Back, shoulders/Arms, legs. Add some core work in every other day. You gonna get on a nutrition plan at all?
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What kind of results are you going to see from a month on a program? It takes time. If your programming is correct you should be able to run the same program for YEARS. Once you find a legit, well sorted program.
I would not change shit for 6 months MINIMUM.

For example going into the gym, and doing a bunch of shit, willy-nilly, with no rhyme or reason, is not a well sorted program.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:28 PM   #70
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At this point, a disciplined time schedule, reducing portions, and a good set/rep list is my initial goal.

I am short and stocky so leaning and getting toned are very difficult. Especially without that 19 year-old metabolism lol.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:46 PM   #72
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What kind of results are you going to see from a month on a program? It takes time. If your programming is correct you should be able to run the same program for YEARS. Once you find a legit, well sorted program.
I would not change shit for 6 months MINIMUM.

For example going into the gym, and doing a bunch of shit, willy-nilly, with no rhyme or reason, is not a well sorted program.
Just giving him a idea. Muscle confusion. Keep the body guessing. I never said anything about doing shit "Willy nilly" in my opinion, I don't like anyone going to the gym without some kind of plan. Its just pointless. But remember OP its mostly nutrition.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:53 PM   #73
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Just giving him a idea. Muscle confusion. Keep the body guessing. I never said anything about doing shit "Willy nilly" in my opinion, I don't like anyone going to the gym without some kind of plan. Its just pointless. But remember OP its mostly nutrition.
I recall reading about muscles "remembering" your workout pattern. I mixed up the actual exercises but stayed consistent on the days. I feel like the recovery time is important
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Anytime you change anything. It helps in my opinion. And get your 8-9 hours of sleep a night..
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Just giving him a idea. Muscle confusion. Keep the body guessing. I never said anything about doing shit "Willy nilly" in my opinion, I don't like anyone going to the gym without some kind of plan. Its just pointless. But remember OP its mostly nutrition.
Again a well sorted plan should have variety. Muscle confusion is some dumb bullshit p90x term. Your muscles don't get confused..lol

There is something called "The law of accommodation" however and you can benefit from a change in stimulus but this is not a problem for most people.

And "it's mostly nutrition" means what? What is mostly nutrition? (not being a dick, just asking for some clarification).

As my lifting partner would say "Stop majoring in the minors". Get a plan, go in there, and lift shit up. If you are a noob-intermediate lifter, being worried about nonsensical shit like "muscle confusion" is crazyness. IMO.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:12 PM   #76
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Again a well sorted plan should have variety. Muscle confusion is some dumb bullshit p90x term. Your muscles don't get confused..lol

There is something called "The law of accommodation" however and you can benefit from a change in stimulus but this is not a problem for most people.

And "it's mostly nutrition" means what? What is mostly nutrition? (not being a dick, just asking for some clarification).

As my lifting partner would say "Stop majoring in the minors". Get a plan, go in there, and lift shit up.
I'm wanting to do the last part, that's why I posted in here to see if anyone wanted to join. I kinda need the kickstart unfortunately
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:15 PM   #77
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Well my friend, you are in fact "being a Dick". Just trying to help a guy that's got questions about lifting. Mostly nutrition means exactly what it says. If you get on a solid plan and work out with a solid plan then your gonna see results. If you eat like a fat ass then you won't. Lol idk what your asking? I'm just giving him general knowledge. Didn't know you needed a degree to voice a opinion on a forum Haha...
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Well my friend, you are in fact "being a Dick". Just trying to help a guy that's got questions about lifting. Mostly nutrition means exactly what it says. If you get on a solid plan and work out with a solid plan then your gonna see results. If you eat like a fat ass then you won't. Lol idk what your asking? I'm just giving him general knowledge. Didn't know you needed a degree to voice a opinion on a forum Haha...
Ok now I will be a dick...lol I asked for clarification because "mostly nutrition" means NOTHING without explanation of what you are talking about.

Getting very lean. Yes is "largely" influenced by diet.

Getting strong. No not mostly nutrition.

Getting big. Depends what you define as "nutrition". Food sure. Eating "clean" not always.

Not everyone cares about looking like an Abercrombie and Fitch poster boy.

So if your goal is to just get strong as fuck, "nutrition" in the sense that I think you are using it, means just about dick.

So instead of being a jack-off, clarify yourself. That is why I asked.
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Here is one of my lifting partners. By your logic, that results = mostly nutrition, he should be a weak puny bitch. lol Guy eats whatever he wants, and as much as he wants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-5jFZxA-4g

Now if you are talking about getting shredded, then YES, a lot comes down to your diet.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #80
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Ok now I will be a dick...lol I asked for clarification because "mostly nutrition" means NOTHING without explanation of what you are talking about.

Getting very lean. Yes is "largely" influenced by diet.

Getting strong. No not mostly nutrition.

Getting big. Depends what you define as "nutrition". Food sure. Eating "clean" not always.

Not everyone cares about looking like an Abercrombie and Fitch poster boy.

So if your goal is to just get strong as fuck, "nutrition" in the sense that I think you are using it, means just about dick.

So instead of being a jack-off, clarify yourself. That is why I asked.
Well jackass, I figured since he said he wanted to get lean. you read enough to know that, when I said "mostly nutrition" it ment in that since. He said himself he wants to get leaner first. No need to start insulting people.
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Well jackass, I figured since he said he wanted to get lean. you read enough to know that, when I said "mostly nutrition" it ment in that since. He said himself he wants to get leaner first. No need to start insulting people.
You can get "leaner" without any special nutritional changes if you go from sitting on your ass all day, to actually expending energy. He didn't say he wanted to be shredded or anything. Just lean up.

So again, no.

Getting lean beyond a certain point, sure.

So instead of being an immature bitch, just answer the question, and clarify yourself. That is what adults do in a big boy conversation.
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Lol. Sorry brroooo I figured you could read. no hard feelings?
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Lol. Sorry brroooo I figured you could read. no hard feelings?
Obviously you are too dense to get it.
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P.S. I hate when people do bicep curls in the squat rack...
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P.S. I hate when people do bicep curls in the squat rack...
Why? It causes muscle confusion.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:11 PM   #87
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You guys are funny

I do a lot of walking around at my hospital, so I am not totally immobile during the day, I have access to a nice cafeteria for breakfast and lunch so I can improve my diet more.

I am at 175 right now size 34 waist, would like to go back to about 170 30 waist,



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I worked out with friends in the Navy and learned the basics (form, muscle groups, and being careful who to listen to) but I never got deep into it. So now that I have time, I'd like to be more educated about what I am doing to myself. I have an above average understanding of the physiological functions of the body, now I just need to understand the lifting concepts better.
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Lifting is sometimes difficult because I have shorter arms and limited rotation of my shoulders (no clue why)

so this should be interesting
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spec do u have any videos of yourself lifting?
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spec do u have any videos of yourself lifting?
Check the 2013 thread he's posted a few
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